When will Canada let me in?

[Kyle_E]

It may not be. However it is being done every single day with zero drama. Unfortunately we are not allowed to post how to do it here because of it angering other members and moderators.

Defense contracts require a whole bunch of hoops to go through in order to cross into and out of other countries. It is a whole different set of rules than the average citizen. Even before COVID military contracts performed by non military personnel were a nightmare. I have been on both sides of it and I can only imagine the difficulty of the logistics during COVID guidelines.

You have no idea what you are talking about. It's literally driving or flying on business. No different than a guy crossing over to sell copy machines. The stuff on location is a different matter, but we are talking about crossing a border rules.

 

[Checkswrecks]

It may not be. However it is being done every single day with zero drama. Unfortunately we are not allowed to post how to do it here because of it angering other members and moderators.

Defense contracts require a whole bunch of hoops to go through in order to cross into and out of other countries. It is a whole different set of rules than the average citizen. Even before COVID military contracts performed by non military personnel were a nightmare. I have been on both sides of it and I can only imagine the difficulty of the logistics during COVID guidelines.

Your posts are being deleted not because you are exceptional in angering other people, it's because we have clearly stated rules that you frequently do not follow.

Note that AvGeek and I generally let your posts which are not factually correct stand. For example, I did not delete your post above, yet. . . .

As for being a civilian contractor crossing borders, I was one before joining joining the Gummint and then traveled extensively with civilians who were both commercial and military from Boeing, Airbus, and other companies and still talk to a lot of these guys. No nightmares, just the routine nuisances of arranging for company travel logistics and reimbursement.

Other than the home country travel briefings and reporting requirements related to classified material, they travel on their blue passports and have the SAME rules as any other civilian. Since COVID began the only Border change for the US employees is that they now have a letter on their company's letterhead to tell the Customs people they are on company business. With respect to quarantine and such, again, I keep hearing they have the SAME rules as for anybody else.

I won't speak to Canadian or EU employees because we have others here who are involved. This week a close friend who works in Iqaluit and has a wife in Quebec City was complaining to me about the time he loses to quarantine at both ends.

 

[ballisticexchris]

You have no idea what you are talking about. It's literally driving or flying on business. No different than a guy crossing over to sell copy machines. The stuff on location is a different matter, but we are talking about crossing a border rules.

Actually I do. I have dealt with border crossings to do business as well as a civilian contractor having to not only get into another country but local military installations also. It always has and always will be a pain in the rear. It is a whole different set of rules and regulations than a simple border crossing.

Your posts are being deleted not because you are exceptional in angering other people, it's because we have clearly stated rules that you frequently do not follow.
Note that AvGeek and I generally let your posts which are not factually correct stand. For example, I did not delete your post above, yet. . . .

If the truth angers other people that's not in my control. Lies and deception from the media that are duping others is a lot worse.

 

[AVGeek]

Chris, I removed your post due to your use of the phrase "fake news". As I posted in the Updated Moderation Direction thread sited above, any posts that have any sort of political bent will be removed, and that is one of the more incendiary phrases these days.

This thread is about border restrictions implemented by the Canadian government. Given that the US and Canada share one of the longest land borders, the restrictions currently in place affect our members that want to travel between the countries, something that has traditionally been easily done.. I know the NHL had to get special dispensation to allow the US team to travel to Montreal to continue the Stanley Cup playoff series, and even then they have had some unexpected positive tests. So regardless of your past experiences, the current situation at the border is highly fluid, and depends greatly on how Canada chooses to deal with the pandemic.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Canada just announced they will start loosening restrictions in 2 weeks, on July 5, for fully vaccinated travelers.
It ONLY says they will eliminate the quarantines and does NOT say whether non-essential travelers (tourists) will be allowed yet.

Canada to lift some border restrictions July 5; next steps months away

Canada said on Monday it would start cautiously lifting border restrictions for fully vaccinated citizens on July 5 but made clear it would be months before U.S. and other foreign travelers could enter the country.

www.reuters.com

 

[Sierra1]

Hmmmm. . . . so, is Canadian politics fair game? 'Cuz, we know what happens when US politics get discussed. Good thing that I'm from the Delta Quadrant. Resistance is futile.

 

[ballisticexchris]

As of today according to United States Government the borders to Canada are open for travel. It is not information from any form of media. This is directly from the:

Travel.State.Gov
U.S. DEPARTMENT of STATE — BUREAU of CONSULAR AFFAIRS

Scroll down and it reads as follows:

Canada International Travel Information:

PASSPORT VALIDITY:
Valid at time of entry. If you are transiting Canada en route to Europe, your passport must be valid for at least 3 months beyond your planned date of departure from the Schengen area.

BLANK PASSPORT PAGES:
One page required

TOURIST VISA REQUIRED:
Not required for stays under 180 days

VACCINATIONS:
None

This mirrors what the Canadian Government is allowing:

We couldn't find that Web page (Error 404) - Travel.gc.ca

Government of Canada's official one-stop-shop for comprehensive international travel information.

travel.gc.ca

As long as you follow the guidelines, strict as they might be, it is a fairly simple process to enter and exit Canada and the United States legally.
How can anyone get angry or dispute this when it is clearly lined out by both governmental entities.

 

[gv550]

Essential travel is and always has been allowed. Leisure travel is still prohibited, both directions.

 

[gapmtn1]

As of today ...

Hi. Your Link (the .ca site) states:

You indicated that you are:

• a foreign national
• not showing signs and symptoms consistent with COVID-19
• coming from the United States
• border crossing for essential everyday functions

This would not apply, as I would be "visits, weddings, leisure, visit or upkeep of property, fishing, or other optional reasons". I think any reasonable person would say that my sightseeing motorcycle trip is neither essential nor non-optional. Pretty sure this has been mentioned before.

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[regder]

Not sure why Chris continues to beat this dead horse. No, you cannot easily travel across the border for leisure.

Canada :https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/answers/foreign-us-none-optional

US:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1406724086370344963

 

[Chaz]

For now:
-Canadian border remain closed until july 21. Canadian Gov keep on pushing the reopening since 2020 at every 21 th of each month.

-leisure travels is NOT permited but essential worker (canadians) can crossed in the US and come back with out any particular restrictions that I know and because of the lack of surveillance. I think US essential workers can crossed the borders like canadians.
They are strongly encourage to be vaccinated but cannot be oblige by law for traveling.
- Prime Minister Trudeau ( ex Art teacher..LOL) wants to wait to have at least 75% of the Canadian citizens vaccinated at 2 doses before reopening the border. Its a BiG % and things are heating up politicaly between Can Gov and States like Vermont , New York, Maine... who’s doing pression to reopen sooner for business.
- on the 5th of july, Travellers who are completely vaccinated (2 doses) 14 days prior to come in Canada will not have to quarantine . As I understand only by plane.

In my opinion , I think we will see a reopening before the 21 th of july.

I miss riding in the US . From my place Maine and New Hampshire are about 2-3 hours drive.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Hmmmm. . . . so, is Canadian politics fair game? 'Cuz, we know what happens when US politics get discussed. Good thing that I'm from the Delta Quadrant. Resistance is futile.

Canadian political posts are also being deleted. AvGeek and I actually have other things to do and are not here every minute to watch what people are posting.

 

[gapmtn1]

Ha, now my content is getting deleted too. Like I'm the guy spewing political BS or misinformation.

 

[Sierra1]

 

[Checkswrecks]

Ha, now my content is getting deleted too. Like I'm the guy spewing political BS or misinformation.

What was deleted was the attack on another member. You can attack an argument but not a member.

 

[gapmtn1]

Uh, ok. I don't have that transcript, but don't recall attacking another member. Questioning their actions / motives, yes. But whatever; your forum, your rules. Good luck with it.

All I wanted to know was if anyone had any insight into Canada's reopening plans.

 

[Mak10]

I may not be able to go into Canada, but I can get pretty close.

 

[magic]

This morning, I talked with one of the Canadian outfitters that I have booked fishing trips with for many years. He explained to me the details of the latest update to the border restrictions.

1) The July 5th date is for Canadian citizens to travel between provinces if they are fully vaccinated. This will vary by region if the Covid 19 cases are low enough and the vaccine rate is high enough. It does not affect the current ban on American citizens crossing the border for leisure or non essential activities.

2) He went on to say that it may be another month or 2 before the border is opened to US citizens for leisure and non essential travel.

3) They are hoping to get 75% of their citizens fully vaccinated before considering opening the border to US citizens. Who may need to show some proof of being vaccinated themselves.

4) I had a trip booked for 2020 that was cancelled and rescheduled it for 2021. Looks like it will be 2022, before I can get back there. I sure am glad we got my down payments back.

 

[Avalanche123]

This morning, I talked with one of the Canadian outfitters that I have booked fishing trips with for many years. He explained to me the details of the latest update to the border restrictions.

1) The July 5th date is for Canadian citizens to travel between provinces if they are fully vaccinated. This will vary by region if the Covid 19 cases are low enough and the vaccine rate is high enough. It does not affect the current ban on American citizens crossing the border for leisure or non essential activities.

2) He went on to say that it may be another month or 2 before the border is opened to US citizens for leisure and non essential travel.

3) They are hoping to get 75% of their citizens fully vaccinated before considering opening the border to US citizens. Who may need to show some proof of being vaccinated themselves.

4) I had a trip booked for 2020 that was cancelled and rescheduled it for 2021. Looks like it will be 2022, before I can get back there. I sure am glad we got my down payments back.

Nice to hear you got your downpayment back! Because my offseason work relies on the tourism industry (I guide and yes I have a bias) I look for daily updates. I have noticed that as per usual with COVID, "things" can change quickly and I am cautiously optimistic we may see the Border open by the end of the month.

 

[Sierra1]

The media was doing a segment on counterfeit vaccination cards. Even Amazon was selling them. To "me" that was just one more reason to actually get vaccinated. 'Cuz, if you haven't been vaccinated, and the guy/gal beside you, did not actually get vaccinated, but is portraying that he/she is. . . . he/she is a danger/threat to anybody not vaccinated. But, if you have been vaccinated, and he/she hasn't the threat, is not zero, but greatly reduced. People. . . .