What stuff to get to ride from 0° to 35° celcius ?

[ballisticexchris]

i have a KLIM BADLANDS jacket but winter riding in the UK its not warm enought i have a POWERLET heated jacket, with controller that i wear underneath wow i can ride all day in cold winter days
i use heated grips with bar muffs as well, just thermals under the klim trousers

I was experimenting with wool just before my injury. I'm not too keen on the heated gear.

No offense to Bimoto, but forget the Klim Badlands. The Latitude is more suited and has better venting. Unless you are a serious dirt/offroad rider, you just don't need that chest protection and the extra weight of the Badlands.

Forget everything you see about Klim pants. They do not make pants. They make lower wear for pousers and fools only. Only a moron would buy pants that you can't take off w/o removing your boots first.

I'm a fan of the Badlands. It offers way more protection and vents just as good as the latitude. Same with pants. I have yet to get a pair of good riding pants that you can put on over your boots. For a serious ride it's all about protection and comfort on the bike.

Side zip over-pants when commuting to work then yes I can see the advantage. Not when on a day ride or tour though.

The Badlands are not bulky at all. Plenty of flexibility and very comfortable for long miles in the saddle. The built in 3 liter water bladder is a plus and adds to the versatility. The only negative is it's not so comfortable if you want to put a backpack on over it. It has plenty of pockets so no backpack needed. I use my Kriegs R15 mostly when dual sporting in my moto gear.

 

[magic]

I am also an Aerotich fan. I am on my 3rd set of Darien gear. Whatever brand you buy make sure it is big enough to allow some layering. If you are serious about cold weather riding, then electric gear should be considered. You can add layers to your upper body, but the problem will be keeping your hands and feet warm. I wear a Gerbing vest, gloves and socks under the Darien gear. For hot weather riding I wear a pair of kevlar lined jeans with armor and a Klim Induction jacket.

 

[HeliMark]

I currently have the Carlsbad jacket, and Latitude pants. I bought the Carlsbad as it is longer, and easier to layer underneath, but after almost two years with it, I wish I went with the more form fitting Latitude jacket. The Latitude pants works well, vents well for what it is. I also have Motoport mesh pants (custom fit), and love them. Anytime there is no rain in the forecast, I will wear the Motoport.

The reason I have the Klim gear, is I often find myself riding in rain, and it is a pain in the a** to keep putting the rain gear on and off.

As to the original question, the Klim gear works well with any temperature, the colder it gets, you just layer underneath, or have heated gear. Bonus is the rain protection, with venting.

 

[ballisticexchris]

You can add layers to your upper body, but the problem will be keeping your hands and feet warm. I wear a Gerbing vest, gloves and socks under the Darien gear.

With heated grips and my HippoHands I can stay pretty toasty. For my feet the Smart Wool socks are pretty darn good. Where I suffer the most is the chest area. I purchased an electric bib from Aerostitch just before my injury but have not had a chance to try it. I'm on the fence with electric gear as It's prone to failure. As riding in cold increases I might have a change of heart.

For reliability wool seems to be the hot ticket to staying warm under the Gortex fabric.

 

[EricV]

Why do you believe electric gear is prone to failure?

I've been using the same heated jacket liner since 2004, and I've used it a LOT more than the average person would. I had an old portable controller die years ago, but it's replacement is over a decade old now and still works perfectly. The current designs are very stable if you get a good brand like Warm and Safe, Gerbing and some others. Several brands are actually made by Warm and Safe or Gerbing and marketed under other brands like First Gear, etc.

 

[Electrolyse]

I wanted to buy this KLIM Badlands top/pant or even Carlbads but due to COVID they have absolutely 0 stock.
I have to get the bike saturday, but the weather forecast say it will be around 39°F ... eekkk

need a B plan urgently please, could you give me other names please, something similar to KLIM carlsbad/Badlands etc, even a bit more expensive because I wont ride with only a jean !

Thank you much !

 

[magic]

Take a look at jackets and pants made by FirstGear. I have an older Jaunt T2 with a zip in liner that is a pretty decent jacket. The T2 is no longer available, but their Katmando jacket and pants look to be similar. My Jaunt T2 has armor, lots of vents, pockets and is reasonably priced.

 

[ballisticexchris]

Why do you believe electric gear is prone to failure?

I've been using the same heated jacket liner since 2004, and I've used it a LOT more than the average person would. I had an old portable controller die years ago, but it's replacement is over a decade old now and still works perfectly. The current designs are very stable if you get a good brand like Warm and Safe, Gerbing and some others. Several brands are actually made by Warm and Safe or Gerbing and marketed under other brands like First Gear, etc.

My thinking is it's something mechanical to fail. I will say if the wool underlay does not work out I might be on board with it. I'm going to try out my Aerostitch bib and see how that works out first. I'm pretty hopeful as it's just my core that ends up getting cold.

 

[cyclemike4]

I really don't have any special gear but I did get a free pair of ski pants years ago. Close to 30 years ago that is. They are light they are warm they cut wind and will shed light rain with no trouble and are very comfortable to wear. They have snow leggings inside that keep all wind from going up the leg. Fairly easy to get on and off except for the leggings. I know they do not offer any real crash protection. I need to find pants more suited for the job but as far as cold goes these are great. I just use a sweat shirt under what ever jacket I own at the time. I had a Joe Rocket with a liner and now i have a Nitro with a liner. my better half got me electric gloves a couple years ago and they are great. Too much insulation in the palms so my hands move away from the heater in the back of the gloves when i grip the bars or use the levers. when i am running with not much traffic around i will open my hands and just lay them on the grips and heat my hand and finger right up. Very nice. I never use the electric gloves unless it is in the teens or i am going a long way and it is in the 20's. I am not a long distance rider but i have done several trips in the 20's of 300 miles with this set up and been fine.

 

[EricV]

My thinking is it's something mechanical to fail. I will say if the wool underlay does not work out I might be on board with it. I'm going to try out my Aerostitch bib and see how that works out first. I'm pretty hopeful as it's just my core that ends up getting cold.

Yes, anything electrical/mechanical has the possibility of failure. I would suggest that's different from being prone to failure. The technology is quite stable and well proven at this point. The level of adjustability and comfort possible with heated gear is a game changer for many. From just an insulation layer to being comfortable in sub 20F temps w/o changing anything you're wearing and just rotating a control knob.

I have worn a heated jacket liner from 20F to 75F during the same day w/o removing it, knowing I was going over high mountain passes and the temp would dip down, then rise again as I dropped elevation.

 

[ballisticexchris]

I can see where the can be an advantage especially out here in the west when temps fluctuate from freezing morning to hot afternoon. Not having to peel off layers is an attractive feature of electric gear.

 

[Electrolyse]

Finaly I got the STADLER 4ALL PRO jacket and STADLER ACE 3 PRO pants.

By quality it seems to be between a carlsbad and a badlands, technically its all the same, protection level 2++, Gore tex pro, SuperFabric, Cordura, etc etc.
I'll get the bike in a week , shes waiting for me at Yamaha dealers, so Im gonna try this stuff at same time as the bike.

Now I need paniers ... another round on internet ..