What stuff to get to ride from 0° to 35° celcius ?

Electrolyse

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Hello Folks !

I'm waiting for my "new" 2021 T1200 and because of the pandemic (yeah sure ...) I took 10kg, so all my old gears have to be replaced.
I'll never will ride under snow, I will probably ride between +0°c (32° F) under the rain, and +30°c/35° c (86°-95° F) with a bright sun, and I'm looking for a technical jacket + pant set that could match this delta t°.

I just watched several videos and found some names like :
- Bering SHIELD GORETEX
- KLIM Badlands
- Dainese Tempest 2 or X-Tourer D-Dry Jacket


I never had such gears so I have no idea what I should use, could someone used to wear these clothes help me please ?

Thanks much

Stephane & Oksana // Switzerland
 

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most of US speak Fahrenheit..... I see the correction ... I have an Aerotich Darian jacket that I am able to layer under as the jacket is basically an wind and waterproof shell with venting as needed. I have ridden as cold as 26 F to 110 F . now at 110 its hot and you will sweat , but then you get evaporative cooling . love my "Stitch".
 

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i have a KLIM BADLANDS jacket but winter riding in the UK its not warm enought i have a POWERLET heated jacket, with controller that i wear underneath wow i can ride all day in cold winter days
i use heated grips with bar muffs as well, just thermals under the klim trousers

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The KLIM stuff is excellent and designed for layering up under, which really makes more sense in really cold temperatures.

Dainese stuff although good, in my experience their quality control is a bit hit and miss. Paying for a premium product, I’d rather put my money with Rukka or KLIM and a laminated outer shell and built in Gortex, not a removable liner.

Bering, not a brand I’m familiar with so can’t comment.

I actually have a Rukka suit but don’t ride this time of year, if I did I’d have gone for the KLIM.
 
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No offense to Bimoto, but forget the Klim Badlands. The Latitude is more suited and has better venting. I have ~100k on mine. Unless you are a serious dirt/offroad rider, you just don't need that chest protection and the extra weight of the Badlands. The Carlsbad might be worth looking at too.

Forget everything you see about Klim pants. They do not make pants. They make lower wear for pousers and fools only. Only a moron would buy pants that you can't take off w/o removing your boots first. Or someone that never actually travels anywhere that doesn't end at home.

Goretex - Yes.

Venting - Yes.

You are looking for gear that you can simply un-zip when it gets hot, and zip up when it starts raining or is cold. Aerostich Darien or Klim Latitude both work. There are no doubt others too. Klim thinks the sleeve pocket is just for first aid info. Aerostich knows it can be used for many things and it's a larger pocket.

Consider how you ride and wear your gear. I like to ride with my collar open in warm/hot weather. Aerostich understand that and has different options to help the collar not flap in the wind. Klim does... on some jackets. Look closely at what you're interested in. That flapping collar hitting the helmet for mile after mile gets annoying. I glued some velcro to my Klim Latitude to stop that, but it's circa 2013. Getting to end of life, but still wear able. Some leaks in heavy rain now at seams.

Base Layer. Very important. I like LDComfort better than anything else I've tried, and I've tried a few. Been a LDComfort fan now for close to 15 years. Good for a day ride, or an 11 day ride, (if you know what I mean), or a month long, 8k mile trip too. Just works. Easy to live with. Easy to clean. Lasts for a very, very long time. Worth the investment.
 

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I also ride through the winter and have tried most brands. I have settled on Rukka and have been wearing the Armas jacket and Navigator trousers for about 3 years now. They are both laminated with Gortex Pro which is the highest quality Gortex make. I too lost a lot of weight and dreaded the thought of having to replace them (£1200 for the jacket and £750 for the trousers) so I found a good seamstress and had them modified. Of course I was worried about the modification affecting waterproofing but it hasn’t. Both garments have removable Outlast linings. Last winter when I had to commute to Southampton every day, I also bought a Kiess electrical heated jacket just in case. I needn’t have bothered, with the kiess jacket turned on under my Rukka jacket, it got too hot!! The Kiess jacket is exceptional though and recommended along with the Kiess heated insoles and gloves which I do use a lot.


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I have a Klim Latitude jacket and pants. Jacket is great, pants are way too baggy and annoying. Both are lightweight, vent well, and are waterproof.

Also have an Aerostich Roadcrafter one piece suit. Super convenient to get on and off, absolutely adore it for commuting to work. Downsides are that durability on mine is very iffy, velcro peeling in multiple spots, and it's no longer waterproof. Keep on meaning to send mine in for repair, but haven't gotten around to it.

Rev'It, Dainese, Aerostich, Klim, can't remember anyone else, all make good stuff at the high end of their range.

I wouldn't worry about specific brands or models, I would definitely get something that has a laminated Gore-Tex layer. Guaranteed to be waterproof, and when it does eventually start to leak, Gore-Tex has a lifetime waterproof warranty. Find something that you like the looks of, at the price you are willing to pay.

For cold weather, I adore heated gear. The Tenere has the electrical power to support a full heated gear setup, socks/pants/jacket/gloves. I have all of it and it's great, random mixture of Gerbing/Warm&Safe/Firstgear, combined with a Warm & Safe wireless troller. Can adjust the heat on two circuits on the fly by the troller mounted on my front brake reservoir. The price sucks, but one ride in the cold and you forget it.

In cold weather, I can wear a set of thermals, heated gear setup, and my riding gear and that's it. Good down to 5C all day long on the highway, not a fan of riding much below that. Heated gear is just so much better compared to wearing 4+ layers and still being cold.
 

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If you are relying on heated gear. Remember it can break. I thought I was gonna freeze to death when mine went out (Tourmaster Synergy 2.0). Kinda like a hard start. It can happen at the worst time. Be ready.
 
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I've had heated gear in the past and made the mistake of selling it when I sold a bike, and thought I was retiring from biking.

I don't need to ride in freezing weather now, but have found a good quality down jacket acts as a tremendous layer. They are so thin you barely notice them but they keep you snug. As with all kit the secret is to start with it being kept in a warm place (e.g. house not unheated garage).

Recently bought a pair of battery heated gloves. They were bulky and had little heat. Waste of money and I sold them.
 

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Klim Lattitude Missano Pants. Klim jacket cant remember what one but was cheapest laminated one. Gerbing liners. Thing to remember with the Klim gear is its nice and roomy its not a fashion cut so much more practical. The gear i have is very well vented and never leaks. We dont get extreem weather over here so its easier to buy stuff that suits. Good point about heated gear failing. Some kind of back up if your in the middle of nowhere will help with freezing your ass off. No gloves i have ever tried will keep my hands warm when its for me very cold. Heated grips and muffs.
 

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Thank you very much for all your answers, I'm gonna google all the stuff names now and see if 1/I like the look 2/I can afford, because 2k in a set if much more than I can put :)
I will keep you informed. thanks again
 

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Being Italian I use Dainese staff...
I actually have the "entry" level either the jacket and trousers water proof with internal removable layers.
When is close to zero I add a thermal trouser and shirt from decathlon..
To me the bike gives me an outstanding cover against the air and cold so my problems are more related to the arms and foot rather than the body itself.
As long as they offer good protection in wet condition even if you don't buy the top products you will be fine.
At least it works for me overhere..
 

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I tend to look out for end of line sales. Klim update their gear often enough so you can get a good deal sometimes. Buying something just as you need it costs more. If i see something im looking out for at the right price im in.
 

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I ride in weather ranging from 0 - 35 C. I use a Klim Latitude jacket and mesh overpants. In cold weather I use a heater liner and heated gloves and throw a waterproof or thermal liner in the overpants. My everyday riding boots are gore-tex waterproof and have lots of wiggle room for the toes.
 

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I also ride through the winter and have tried most brands. I have settled on Rukka and have been wearing the Armas jacket and Navigator trousers for about 3 years now. They are both laminated with Gortex Pro which is the highest quality Gortex make. I too lost a lot of weight and dreaded the thought of having to replace them (£1200 for the jacket and £750 for the trousers) so I found a good seamstress and had them modified. Of course I was worried about the modification affecting waterproofing but it hasn’t. Both garments have removable Outlast linings. Last winter when I had to commute to Southampton every day, I also bought a Kiess electrical heated jacket just in case. I needn’t have bothered, with the kiess jacket turned on under my Rukka jacket, it got too hot!! The Kiess jacket is exceptional though and recommended along with the Kiess heated insoles and gloves which I do use a lot.


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+1 on the Keiss electric jacket, I've just picked one up and at the minute they are coming with a free controlller, they also come with a lifetime guarantee on the heating elements.
A pre christmas ride around 1 to 2*C with it underneath my Rev-it Poseidon goretex laminate suit had me turning the heat down to minimum once warm - was very toasty. If your core is warm your cognitive processes stay sharp and you ride safer instead of your brain going into self defence mode. I fancy trying the heated insoles next to keep the toes warm
 

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I ride in most weather as long as the roads are clear...ish. I use a roadcrafter and some klim gear. Presently using the kodiak jacket. I had the badlands and lived it the pants were great with excellent pants that were completely water proof and vented very well. They we comfortable enough to not feel the desire to take them off for walking around in. The roadcrafter on the other hand is easy off but it also one I would want to walk around in. When I get off the bike the suit comes off, comfortable on the bike. For me the roadcrafter gets hot especially the legs where there is no “real” vents. You can unzip the pants some but that negates some protection. When it’s 50 and up I run a pair of the old style bmw city pants and klim Kodiak jacket. I keep water or off tabun paints I can slip in if it’s choking to be cold and raining. The 1 piece roadcrafter is good, when layered, from 20s to about 85. So if it’s going to be days of rinsing in 30 degree weather that my go to set up. I have other gear but don’t use it much. I never sell gear so I have all my stuff from riding over 30 years. Which just means I’ve made purchases for a long period of time. Makes it much easier than having to find one kit to do everything all at once. Your in a hard place with starting over.
 
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I don’t ride in the winter here much. Too much ice, snow and salt on the roads. However, I’ve ridden in cold springs/autumns plenty. Currently, Kilm Latitude, heated jacket, Neck warmer, winter riding gloves, Darien pants, keeps me warm enough down into the 30’s. Colder than that and it’s no fun and the roads become sketchy.
 

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I've tried finally KLIM Carlsbad and Badlands stuuff, BAD is overkill, too heavy and rigid, no doubt it does the job and no doubt its a very (very) good product, Carlbad is more flexibel stuff , less complex also, my wife tried ARTEMIS and loved it, I'll get it for her, for me Im not sure yet. answer soon
 

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Other than the lousy outside pockets I’m liking the Klim Latitude jacket but not sure what I will buy yet.
 

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The shop I went in did not had the Latitude so I cannot say anything, I have to try it anyway because even after seeing 10 reviews on YouTube, I still could not decide which one I would like.
the badlands is annoying because of the weight, it restricts my movement pretty much, in the other case IF I fell down, I would probably be more happy having badlands than a Carlsbad . ..

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