What first and what kind?

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So yesterday I showed off my bike to my friends where I volunteer. Rode home in commute traffic, used the commuter lane and split lanes which is legal here in California took me five minutes instead of 35 minutes. I love it ! Today I needed to take a couple of things with me but I lost my cargo net in Sturgis I had no way to take the stuff on the S10 had to drive the 4Runner. It’s hard picking out upgrades when you’ve never seen them or felt them I have some things at RevZilla crash bars, skid plate, foot brake leaver extension. In the cart. But now I’m thinking Panniers first. I usually buy top of the line. But this is right now a Alaska bike. Then who knows. I’m thinking Permanente commuter!!!!! So what kind? What size? Frames? I’m used to the bags on the LTD this whole experience and such a leap of faith. Not usually what I do! I need a skid plate. Crash bars. What else? Which brand? These purchases need to be made over the next 9 months to not stress the wife or bank account!!!
 

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I'd think that for a commuter planning to lane-split that a lockable, waterproof top box would be higher up the priority list than either panniers or a skid plate.
 

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I would also go for the top box first. I have the Jesse box's (10"), but I leave the side cases off unless I am on a trip, or need the extra storage. The 10" is just under the width of the handlebars, so while splitting traffic, if the bars fit, the bags will. The only problem I find is that sometimes when you need to swerve a little just as you are passing a car, I sometimes wondered how close those boxes came to the car.

I have the 45L Jesse top box that I leave on. I keep a small compressor and tire stuff in it all the time, a bicycle cable lock for my helmet and jacket if needed, some oil (just in case), and other junk one collects when commuting. No problems with any interference with the side cases.

The first I would get is the crash bars and skid plate to help protect the bike. I did that and just used a duffel bag strapped to the rear seat until the bank account caught up again.
 

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Smart advice!! so what size top box? will it affect the size side boxes I pick?
Brand?
It depends what you want to carry in the top box really. Bare in mind that some large top boxes will affect or prevent top opening panniers from working properly in as much as they overlap the panniers.

So...... Personally, I would go for Bumot panniers and top box, they tuck in close to the bike and are shaped to fit around the exhaust so giving you a symmetrical appearance. Bumot are the bags I wanted to buy but were really at the top end of my price scale. What I settled for was Givi quick release frames with 36 litre Givi Trekker cases. For my top box, I used a Pelican 1440 case mounted with anti-vibration mounts.
 

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Word of caution: the wide Givi type trunks will likely foul top opening panniers -- that's why most of the Jesse/Bumot/Trekker cases are more square rather than rectangular. I sold my Givi E45 trunk and mounting plate and purchased the Bumot top case setup after buying the Bumot panniers and realizing they can't open with the Givi top box mounted.

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I commute 35 miles/minutes each direction, 5 days a week. About half of that 35 is between lanes of traffic.

I only have a topcase, I don't have panniers, maybe soft for me someday but I like keeping it slim on the commute.

It's about 35L, it's the only one from Brooks Motorsports. Be advised, I had to buy longer bolts, I think the example they used had different receiving nuts, on mine the treading starts about 1/4" or more inside of the nut. The price was good and it seems pretty sturdy, they come from China I assume but the importer lady is in milpitas, ca and is very customer service aware.
 
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You should be able to find a few local riders they may have goodies already that you can look at and ask questions .
 

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The ‘13 S10 I picked up 3 months ago was very nicely setup by the original owner.
Flashed ECU, Altrider crash bars, ACD Racing skid plate, Madstadt windscreen bracket, Yamaha heated grips, Kaoko throttle lock and last but not least, the Yamaha OEM side panniers (made by Shad btw).
It seems like crash/drop protection is always at the top of the list when it comes to what to do first.
I must say I heard and read not so positive reviews about the Yammy side cases when I was researching all things Super Tenere.
I ride a lot into and out of NYC and the relatively narrow profile of the mounted side panniers are great for fitting through traffic and the plethora of double parked cars and other obstacles one encounters in dense, urban riding. I just started dabbling lightly into riding off the slab so I imagine the benefits of the narrow profile will be a plus riding through trails in the woods and such.
The previous owner dropped the bike off road on the right side and of course the Altrider crash bars took the brunt of the drop but the rear, right side case was also involved and besides the plastic side, edge trim getting gouged it stood up quite well. The top and the sides of the cases have aluminum or some sort of metal skins while the actual case itself is plastic. The Yammy cases are pretty decent IMHO and have served me well so far in my newbie to ADV bikes experiences so far. I guess as I get more serious with long distance touring and off the slab riding the true rating of these cases can be established.
Lastly, I do like the fact that the Yammy cases have a sort of military look about them especially in black.
**Forgot to mention how easily these cases are removed and/or reattach.
 
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I commute and do distance. I have two top boxes and the big one for commuting is a 28L Holand Nomada. It carries the backpack, lunch and always has the tool kit, compressor, 1st aid box, and a locking cable. When I get to work, it holds the helmet, gloves, and HitAir inflatable vest. When I go on weekend rides, I swap it for a small Pelican case.

My side boxes are on SW-Motech removable racks. Four quarter turn fasteners to quickly install or remove each box. For commuting, I learned to not use the boxes. Lane splitting is not legal in DC but regularly done and I caught a rubber moulding around a bus wheel well once. Stayed up but learned my lesson.

The bike has been around for 8-ish years so most of these carole questions have been answered a number of times and you can find more info with a simple search.
 

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To add to CW's comments, the searches often bring up interesting comments and perspectives about your topics that you may otherwise not see. The best advice I've read on any forum is to let your needs dictate your modifications. Don't go crazy pimping out the bike all at once, but when you have a need or something bothers you, make changes or add things to address that.

You are commuting now, the size of the top box is dictated by what you need to carry to work and back on a regular basis. Many top boxes are quickly removable w/o tools, or can have that option. Allowing a fast swap from one size to another if multiple sizes meet your needs for commute Vs Touring. Holan, Touratech Zega, SW Motech, Bumot, Happy Trails, Tusk, Givi and many, many more options out there for top boxes and side cases/bags.

Many racks allow for quick, tool-less removal of the side bags. (Zega Pro in my case) The pannier racks do not really add any significant width to the bike, and give you some side protection for the bike in urban assault riding. That said, some love the SWMotech rack's ability to quickly remove the racks too, and the asthetics that allows when there is no need for side bags. Givi offers a quick release side case frame now too.

In reality, anything narrower than the handlebars is going to go thru the 'hole' you find in traffic. That said, it's un-nerving to catch a bag on a solid object when working the bike back and forth.

Hard side bags or soft? For off pavement, many people prefer soft. For your planned Alaska trip, (BTDT, 32 days and 8k miles), it all depends on what your plans are. I used hard bags for Alaska and they stay on the bike every day before and after. I am comfortable lane splitting on the Super Ten with my hard bags. The more aggressive you are in traffic, the narrower you will want your bike. And remember, soft bags still need some framework to keep they out of the tire and off the exhaust. There are rear bars like Rumbux that give protection and soft bag tie down areas, or almost any of the hard bag frames that will give some protection and work with most soft bags too as tie down points.

Your needs are going to drive the direction your modifications, (we call them farkles), will go. I'm a big guy, I immediately found I needed my mirrors a bit farther out so I had a view of more than my shoulders. You can spend $30 on mirror extenders, or $10 for the same thing from Lucky Bike . That was my first change in 2011 when I got my 2012 Super Ten and started riding it.

Ride the bike. See what you need or what you need to change to fit your situation. Shop around, there are tons of vendors and usually many different options for any one need. There is no perfect choice, only the choice that's perfect for you. :)
 

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Awesome answers!!! Thanks for the tip on the mirror extenders I’m also a big guy and get too much of my shoulders in the mirror. Bigger brake pedal Next. Then the top box. How about side stand enlargers? Needed? Brands? Fit and ease of installation? These will get me started.
 

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How about side stand enlargers? Needed? Brands? Fit and ease of installation? These will get me started.
There are a bunch of side stand enlargers. If you're ever parking off pavement or on hot asphalt, you want one. Lots easier than tossing down a plate and remembering to pick it up when you are ready to ride off. But, you can go cheap with a electrical junction box cover and some cord to loop around your grip and hey, it works.

For side stand feet, the best two are AltRider and Ride On ADV. Lots of vendors sell AltRider, including Ride On ADV. Jaxon of Ride On ADV is on this forum and rides a Super Tenere. Wander around his web site and check out what he sells.

Be aware that there are two different Super Ten style of side stand enlargers, Gen I and Gen II. 2010-2013 bikes are Gen I and had steel side stands. 2014-on bikes are Gen II and have aluminum side stands. Different shape of the side stand foot, so they do not interchange. Make sure you are buying the enlarger foot for the correct Gen of bike to match yours. You may have to call Ride On ADV about when more will be ready, as they currently show out of stock. Many others are out there, Givi has a budget one, SWMotech makes one, etc. Most will do the job, but the two I mentioned first are stiffer and less likely to deform over time. Still, look at several and make your own choice. I used to ride a lot and the AltRider went on my bike because it didn't hang down more than stock, the wider areas are up, so it doesn't drag in the corners. And it didn't come loose with miles either. Over 100k on my first one. Had to buy a new one when I moved to a Gen II bike since the Gen I wouldn't fit the Gen II bike.

The Ride On ADV version has an advantage of raising the bike a bit, making the lean angle less on the side stand. For some, that's a good thing.
 

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I did side cases first (this was on my Vstrom, they are being carried over onto my ST as soon as the racks get here) because I could carry more with them. The plan was to have all 3 but I had to split the purchases up by a bit. I daily with all 3 because I use them all the time, either carrying rain gear and my backpack to school in the side cases and using the top case to hold my helmet, or stopping for groceries or running other errands. Those big Givi outback cases hold damn near a week worth of groceries :)
 

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So I really want the Givi Outback 58L top box! love all the tie down options on top and the Roominess. Altrider base plate system. Would like to get by with only buying one top box. Will I be able to open the Givi trekker side cases with this big box? Anyone running this setup? Other Options?
 
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Great thread, I was considering the Yamaha panniers. Now it looks like a done deal, I have the Altrider bars all ready, the side boxes will be the final touch.
 
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