What do we now think of the bike

[Banderboy]

Having now owned the bike for a few months, the thing that gets me every time is the way the bike (unlike my last bikes) never starts instantaneously with a jab of the button. Sometimes I'm close to "oh, no!", and then (thank God) she starts. And she does start every time, it's just that at times she almost sounds reluctant.

 

[HeliMark]

Having now owned the bike for a few months, the thing that gets me every time is the way the bike (unlike my last bikes) never starts instantaneously with a jab of the button. Sometimes I'm close to "oh, no!", and then (thank God) she starts. And she does start every time, it's just that at times she almost sounds reluctant.

If it is the original battery, might be getting time for a replacement. Most have replaced the battery with a higher capacity one. I have, and mine will start within one or two revolutions. She hates a weak battery.

 

[twinrider]

Having now owned the bike for a few months, the thing that gets me every time is the way the bike (unlike my last bikes) never starts instantaneously with a jab of the button. Sometimes I'm close to "oh, no!", and then (thank God) she starts. And she does start every time, it's just that at times she almost sounds reluctant.

My 15 starts right away, still on the original battery I think.

 

[fac191]

My 15 starts right away, still on the original battery I think.

Same as mine always been on a tender.

 

[Kyle_E]

I put 70 miles a day every day year round. More in better weather and its not 112F like it was today.

You know what hit me? Just how easy this bike is. It has taken me a while to warm up to it. Absolutely not dislike, but not love. Its my first big bike, Ive been on 650's and such before. I kinda felt like it was more of a hammer than the knife my Versys 650 was.

Three months in and that is all gone I am really enjoying the bike, much more confident on it. The higher CG and the wider bars were holding me back from feeling at home. Now Im taking corners at the same speeds I would have on the V if not a bit faster. Ive gained the confidence to really lay it over at speed.

But the single most important thing as I rolled into the garage tonight.... not having to lube the damn chain every other day!!!! Man it just puts the fun back in riding not having to do that. Yeah Yeah I know chain lube and clean is a 4 min job and not a big deal. But I absolutely hated it every time.

 

[simmons1]

My 2012 hit 50K miles a week or so ago. Other than adding many farkles and replacing the CCT at about 25K it has been maintenance free. Still puts a smile on my face when ever I ride it.

 

[Kruzzin5]

There’s a guy that posted on horizons unlimited Facebook page about his 2014 S 10. He’s a world traveler, and just turned 250,000 km on his bike, complete with photo! With no issues! I said I would be happy with half that mileage with no issues. LOL

 

[bamajoe]

Update... since I bought my bike new in June I now have a little over 9000 miles on it. I just did 5 days 1974 miles through Al, Tn, Va, WV, Pa, NC, the bike was flawless. Me coming off 2 Yamaha royal star ventures I was concerned about how the s10 would travel, it was amazing. It travels better than I ever could imagine.

 

[Stoned]

Update. I had sold my 2013 last year and missed it terribly. Recently purchased a 2019 ES so back in the fold. I have concerns about the suspension when it comes time to service it, but it is very well sorted from stock. The motor is much improved and so far ( 3k miles ) I do not believe I will need a re-flash for this bike. My mpg's is also much improved, from 40-44 mpg with the 2013 to 50-52 with the 2019.

My vote stays the same: "It surpasses my expectations"

 

[Kruzzin5]

Update. I had sold my 2013 last year and missed it terribly. Recently purchased a 2019 ES so back in the fold. I have concerns about the suspension when it comes time to service it, but it is very well sorted from stock. The motor is much improved and so far ( 3k miles ) I do not believe I will need a re-flash for this bike. My mpg's is also much improved, from 40-44 mpg with the 2013 to 50-52 with the 2019.

My vote stays the same: "It surpasses my expectations"

Congratulations! That’s a major miles per gallon improvement!

 

[BaldKnob]

Congratulations! That’s a major miles per gallon improvement!

I saw similar gains in fuel efficiency... my ‘12 averaged 43-44mpg and with the ‘17 the computer is stuck at 48mpg.

 

[Sierra1]

….with the ‘17 the computer is stuck at 48mpg.

Oh darn....what a number to be stuck with.

 

[Cycledude]

Yes my 18 also seems to do about 9 mpg better than the 13 did.
another thing I noticed while riding it in colder weather is the jerky throttle seems to have completely disappeared

 

[twinrider]

Yes my 18 also seems to do about 9 mpg better than the 13 did.
another thing I noticed while riding it in colder weather is the jerky throttle seems to have completely disappeared

Yup, Yamaha's stock fueling setting is too lean. If you don't want to flash it, you could add a booster plug, which will make the ECU think outside temps are 35 F lower so it makes the air/fuel mixture richer. https://www.boosterplug.com/shop/boosterplug-yamaha-xt1200z-491p.html

 

[staq50]

so, I have a question then about fooling the ECU into thinking the temps lower.....so can we not just remove the air sensor from the inside of the airbox to the outside???? anyone experimented with this?

 

[Kruzzin5]

so, I have a question then about fooling the ECU into thinking the temps lower.....so can we not just remove the air sensor from the inside of the airbox to the outside???? anyone experimented with this?

Great idea… If it works.

 

[twinrider]

so, I have a question then about fooling the ECU into thinking the temps lower.....so can we not just remove the air sensor from the inside of the airbox to the outside???? anyone experimented with this?

That would only change it by a few degrees at most. Also sounds like a lot more work than installing a booster plug. I had one on my Africa Twin and it made a decent improvement. Good bang for the buck for those who don't want to do a flash.

 

[staq50]

That would only change it by a few degrees at most. Also sounds like a lot more work than installing a booster plug. I had one on my Africa Twin and it made a decent improvement. Good bang for the buck for those who don't want to do a flash.

the sensor is only held in by one small screw........the outside temp would be way lower than the in......by the time i order a booster it will cost me near $350 + NZ.....

 

[twinrider]

the sensor is only held in by one small screw........the outside temp would be way lower than the in......by the time i order a booster it will cost me near $350 + NZ.....

From what I've seen on my S10, the ambient temp and the temp by the airbox opening only differed by about 2C when not stuck in traffic.

I'm in Japan, the price with worldwide shipping was US$160.

 

[staq50]

From what I've seen on my S10, the ambient temp and the temp by the airbox opening only differed by about 2C when not stuck in traffic.

I'm in Japan, the price with worldwide shipping was US$160.

$160 US (going off the price per above link) is $250 NZ add freight and tax of 15% and duty......no i wouldn't strap it to the aire box but in a cooler situ, how do you find it on your bike? mines still stock...