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Cool...congrats. I've been out of the market for so long I didn't even know Mossberg made handguns. I only knew of their shotguns.

Learned something new today.
+1. I didn't know they got back in the pistol business either. Not real surprising considering that everybody and their dog makes conceal carries nowadays. Apparently, the last time they made pistols was 1919. This one came out in 2019. Might be kinda hard to find an inside the waistband holster.
 

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+1. I didn't know they got back in the pistol business either. Not real surprising considering that everybody and their dog makes conceal carries nowadays. Apparently, the last time they made pistols was 1919. This one came out in 2019. Might be kinda hard to find an inside the waistband holster.
I didn't know they made more than shotguns either till in the market and as Sierra1 notes, they started only in 2019. The pistols are made in Eagle Pass TX, not overseas, and I do try to buy domestic. They definitely blended what seemed to work out of the existing stuff; P365, Hellcat, M&P, etc, then added a couple of their own ideas. The MC2SC is a new model introduced less than a year ago and the distributors go in and out of stock. I wanted it with a safety and unfortunately it's shotgun style, not a thumb safety, so will need to drill with it to learn something different. https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/mossberg-mc2sc-review/

There are definitely fewer holster options for holsters than for the regular pistol brands. Found only a half dozen holsters and I am waiting for delivery of the one made by DeSantis I decided on.
 

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Practice, practice, and more practice. 'Cuz when the doody hits the fan, the brain shuts down, and muscle memory takes over. That's one of the things that I like about my new Ruger. It's a 1911 style with an ambi safety. Plenty of muscle memory from my Kimber. Fun odd fact: Ruger offers a "Pro" version. $20 extra to remove the safety. o_O
 

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Not a fan of safety's on a pistol.......and definitely not on a carry gun (my lizard brain will always forget to disengage when faced with a life-or-death scenario, I don't care how much training or muscle memory I have). The loudest sound in the world is "click" when you're expecting "bang".

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You guys not a fan of a trigger safety? We are not allowed to use it for personal protection but I can imagine a trigger safety can’t be forgotten. But you always have it on safe when there is no finger on the trigger.

@Checkswrecks did you get a chance to shoot the Mossberg before buying? Do you already have it or awaiting delivery?
 

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You guys not a fan of a trigger safety? We are not allowed to use it for personal protection but I can imagine a trigger safety can’t be forgotten. But you always have it on safe when there is no finger on the trigger.
The whole safety thing goes back to how you were trained. I always assume the safety is on so pressing it became part of drawing. The gun store owner and I were just talking about this and he personally had a RSO stop him from holstering once because some of his shirt had gotten into the trigger guard.

This was right after he kicked a customer out. There 3 of us were talking and the noob who had just finished his CCW class asked to see a pistol. While talking he started out pointing it at the floor somewhere off to my left and the muzzle came up to my crotch as his face came up to look at me while still talking and pulling the slide back to see if it was clear. I yelled, he stopped to stare at me, and the store owner said he was done.


@Checkswrecks did you get a chance to shoot the Mossberg before buying?
Do you already have it or awaiting delivery?
Yes. We have some really nice ranges nearby that do a lot of government training and have everything imaginable for rent.

Now waiting delivery.
 

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When we transitioned from the 1911 to the Sig 320, I noticed that I was still thumbing the safety off. :oops: Not a big deal, but the 320 doesn't have an external safety.
 

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Before I bought a S&W Shield, I carried a H&K P7 (still have it). Not much worry about forgetting the safety on it, just squeeze.
 

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I've never really understood a trigger safety. I mean I can see what it's doing so I understand that. But why? The safety does its job if the object moving the trigger is only 5mm wide on the left or right side of the trigger, but if that object is 7mm wide, it's good to go. Considering how common it is I'm sure there's something I'm missing. All the ones I've owned with it have been DAO, so I just haven't figured out the point of it.
 

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I've never really understood a trigger safety. I mean I can see what it's doing so I understand that. But why? The safety does its job if the object moving the trigger is only 5mm wide on the left or right side of the trigger, but if that object is 7mm wide, it's good to go. Considering how common it is I'm sure there's something I'm missing. All the ones I've owned with it have been DAO, so I just haven't figured out the point of it.
The trigger safety is a drop safety, its purpose is to prevent the trigger from activating due to kinetic energy if the gun is dropped and lands with the muzzle pointed straight upwards (did you follow the saga of the early P320's ?).

We had a longtime club member killed last year when he dropped his pistol while holstering up after the "load and make ready" command. It was a CZ race gun without a trigger safety; the gun landed vertically with the muzzle pointing upwards towards the shooter and the trigger bounced....firing off a round. Tragic.
 

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. . . . I wanted it with a safety and unfortunately it's shotgun style, not a thumb safety, so will need to drill with it to learn something different. . . .
Ok, I saw your post and pictured a Mossberg shotgun safety; slide up/down. After looking at the picture (below), you were talking about a Remington shotgun safety; right/left?

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The trigger safety is a drop safety, its purpose is to prevent the trigger from activating due to kinetic energy if the gun is dropped and lands with the muzzle pointed straight upwards (did you follow the saga of the early P320's ?).

We had a longtime club member killed last year when he dropped his pistol while holstering up after the "load and make ready" command. It was a CZ race gun without a trigger safety; the gun landed vertically with the muzzle pointing upwards towards the shooter and the trigger bounced....firing off a round. Tragic.
That's a tragic example of the usefulness of a trigger safety.

I had not followed the early P320's situation. I'll have to look that up.
 

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Ok, I saw your post and pictured a Mossberg shotgun safety; slide up/down. After looking at the picture (below), you were talking about a Remington shotgun safety; right/left?

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My bad for not finishing the mental image.
Yes, similar to the Remington 870 & 11-87 which we have.
 

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I had not followed the early P320's situation. I'll have to look that up.
It was very early in production, all good now.

 

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Or you could go with a custom 1911 intended for IDPA matches.

$4,215



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