very bad design on kick stand

[Gigitt]

The kick stand is fine - you just have to use it properly.
When parking make sure the ground is level or sloping to the left a bit - trial and error.

I have a 2015 ES, added the Altrider foot enlager and this actually raised the angle of lean and the bike sits more vertical
The foot enlarger is 4-5mm thick and the inner edge is longer than stock so it contacts the ground earlier on the heel. So i do have to pick my surface lean a bit more carefully and on occasions I have re-park the bike at a different angle, or change to directions like front in rather than reverse just to get a more stable lean on the kickstand.

 

[twinrider]

Below are pics of a puck that I repurposed. I think the non-ES bike have a firmer spring so sit taller, whereas the ES version use the electronics to firm up the spring when switched on so lean agles would be different.....

How did you attach it?

 

[Dogdaze]

How did you attach it?

I drilled and tapped two holes in the foot, then drilled two corresponding holes in the puck which I then countersunk, sliced about 6-7mm off the puck (through trial and error) put a little bonding glue and then attached with two rust resistant screws, there is no need to over secure as there will only be static downward pressure.

 

[Beemermcr]

I had the steel one of course on the 2012. I replaced it wiith the aluminum 2014 stand, and when I did, I actually measured everything comparing the two and they are 100% identical in all measurements and no difference will happen changing one way or the other, same exact length, same exact measurement of how high off the ground while the bike is set up vertical. I suppose it's possible for some stands to vary in some way do to manufacturing, but don't bother switching aluminum to steel or vise versa thinking anything will change.

You are right: I did the same thing - the two measure as identical, but the effect, for me, was as I described.

 

[U.P.rider]

My Gen 1 Vmax was tippy and wanted to roll forward folding the stand. I took care of it by filing off the stands forward stop so it rotated the stand further forward which resolved both issues. The reason it got tippy? I installed Carrozzeria wheels and radial tires with a lower sidewall which lowered the bike less than a inch even though I was using the same size(18”)wheels.


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[Cycledude]

Harley Davidson is the only motorcycle manufacturer that has a locking side stand, maybe they have some kind of patent on it that prevents other manufacturers using it. I learned the hard way many years ago to simply park in gear to eliminate any chance of the bike rolling a couple inches and folding up the side stand causing the bike to tip over. About the only place I normally park in neutral is at home in my garage.

 

[Tenman]

My Gen 1 Vmax was tippy and wanted to roll forward folding the stand. I took care of it by filing off the stands forward stop so it rotated the stand further forward which resolved both issues. The reason it got tippy? I installed Carrozzeria wheels and radial tires with a lower sidewall which lowered the bike less than a inch even though I was using the same size(18”)wheels.


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I did the same thing grinding a little off the stop on 2 other bikes. I have altrider foot on mine and it's just right. I'm thinking you got to much sag too. You could probably bend it out a little to do some good if its a steel stand

 

[HeliMark]

Harley Davidson is the only motorcycle manufacturer that has a locking side stand, maybe they have some kind of patent on it that prevents other manufacturers using it. I learned the hard way many years ago to simply park in gear to eliminate any chance of the bike rolling a couple inches and folding up the side stand causing the bike to tip over. About the only place I normally park in neutral is at home in my garage.

Actually, the police version of the BMW RT has a locking side stand, but not the civilian one. Learned that first hand with my idling RT and me standing about five feet from it.

 

[U.P.rider]

I did the same thing grinding a little off the stop on 2 other bikes. I have altrider foot on mine and it's just right. I'm thinking you got to much sag too. You could probably bend it out a little to do some good if its a steel stand

My Vmax is fine now, I make sure it is in gear as a habit. I really haven't had enough time with the '16 S10 but it will be one of the first things I check out one she is out of storage.

 

[Sierra1]

Actually, the police version of the BMW RT has a locking side stand,....

It DOES lock, but it DOESN'T last. It just isn't built heavy enough. Although aluminum, the Tenere's seems strong enough. And I like the "excessive" lean the bike has; I don't worry about it falling over.

 

[Mak10]

I have no complaints with the side stand on my 16 Es. I leave it down when I get on the bike, step on the peg to get on. I find it’s lean just right.

My KTM is a different story. The side stand is ok the mount is made of soft cheese however.

 

[Edbo1960]

I would be happy if it was a simple fix. With my new adjustable side-stand and the taller rear shock, I'm fairly happy with the results.

This is the first time in 400,000 miles on 12 bikes that I've had this issue. One of the other Tenere riders that I spoke with has a lot more experience than I do and weighs about twice what I weigh... and it was his biggest complaint about the bike.

What adjustable sidestand did you buy? Are you happy with it? Thanks!

 

[Andyb43]

I used to have issues on ferries, when the bike was loaded and ratcheted dow it was vertical. fell over twice on the ferry until i raised the back end now it leans over like a normal bike and when ratched down is not quite vertical.

 

[GSequoia]

Looking back chalk this one up to lack of experience with a new bike. I've done nothing to fix the "problem" of the side stand but it's never been a problem. Indeed I adapted to it so much that I had forgotten that I even once thought my stock height 2016 non-ES was excessively upright when parked.

 

[Tombstone]

What adjustable sidestand did you buy? Are you happy with it? Thanks!

I'm sorry I don't remember the name. And ultimately I went back to the stock stand....what made the difference is I installed an aftermarket shock that raised the bike a bit. Now the stock stand works well enough.

 

[~TABASCO~]

Just a thought !

 

[sheikyerbooty]

Just a thought !


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classic. its a tie between this and the chicken foot i saw here on yst.com somewhere

 

[~TABASCO~]

classic. its a tie between this and the chicken foot i saw here on yst.com somewhere