Variation on the seat mod with pictures

[mhild]

Is your seat mod to make the seat sit higher? I like the cleanness of your mod, but was curious as to what it does. I just did purchase a Super Tenere, so I'm new to this.

After not riding for over a year I was a little apprehensive about striking ount on a 2000+ mile trip to the Smokey Mountains with the stock saddle. My FJR has a Rick Mayer seat and the thought of a stock saddle had my butt cringing and questioning my wisdom over the thought of this trip. I made a slight variation the mod that has been posted on this forum but I did so with pop in and out parts that would make it easy to change back and forth if needed.

I struck out with MarkJenn since he was picking his bike up from my store and also with a friend on his GS. After riding the better part of a week I started home while Mark and Jim went on to West Virginia. I rode the final day 785 miles and could have easily gone another 200-300 miles. Here is how I did essentially the same mod, but with factory parts............

The seat cushions are easily popped out and I didn't want to glue different ones in place so I used the seat cushions from a 2003 Roadstar 1600 which is approximately half the height of the stock S10 cushion. The Yamaha part # is 22W-24741-00-00 and they should be bought for a couple of dollars or so each.

Since I ride with the seat in the high position I only needed to put these in the middle.

I then drilled a hole into the reciever that the "tongue" of the saddle goes into and placed another cushion from the Roadstar in this hole from the bottom up to take up the slack of the rear seat drop.

Another view........

This is easily removed and the stock cushions can be placed back in with no hot glue to deal with removing.

If you use the low position you would just change out the rear-most cushions to get the drop and make the seat essentially flat.

Tony

 

[Cycledude]

Most folks myself included are annoyed with the forward slope of the stock seat, switching to the shorter rubber bumpers lowers the rear of the seat about 1/4 inch so it doesn’t slope forward as much anymore, I did mine last fall and I’m pretty happy with the results, about $5 for 3 new shorter bumpers from my local dealer and about a half hour to install them myself, it’s a pretty cheap and easy fix.

 

[lotecredneck]

What size bit are you guys using to drill the locating tab?

I can't recall the size of the hole, just pop out the one you are replacing and find a bit that fits that hole and that will be the size you need.

 

[lotecredneck]

After a recent 4,500 mile Idaho trip I've decided to finally try improving the stock seat on my 2013 Tenere, read all 10 pages of this thread, the original poster has a great Low cost fix with excellent pictures ! My Tenere was delivered with the seat in the low position but after reading so many folks using the high position I thought maybe I should try that, I don't like the high position when stopped because it's a bit more reach to the ground but I was very surprised to find out it's a little more comfortable going down the road, after a day of riding with it in the high position I switched back to the low position and after an hour of that I switched back to the high position which I now highly prefer. In a couple weeks I might try switching the bumpers to help level the seat and see what happens.

By running in the high position, it reduces the amount of bend in your knees. My BMW F800GS had Touratech pegs that would adjust up and down, and just the 10mm difference in height made a huge difference in the feel over time.

~Tony

 

[twinrider]

I can't recall the size of the hole, just pop out the one you are replacing and find a bit that fits that hole and that will be the size you need.

It's 19mm.

 

[rrarthur]

I actually cut the nipple off the bumper and used weather stripping glue to glue the bumper to the top instead of drilling. This has worked great so far.

 

[steve68steve]

Another variation on the seat mod (didn't read all replies, apologies if redundant).

I've found some rubber chair tips that fit the seat bosses really well:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Waxman-Gripper-Anti-Skid-4-Pack-7-8-in-Black-Rubber-Tips/1000367981

Manufacturer is Waxman, size 7/8", part number 4440595L, $3 from Lowes.

The underside of the seat has 4 bosses which contact the 4 pads of the plastic insert which adjusts height. I slipped the chair tips on those bosses. On the front pair, I put a felt pad in the chair tip before slipping it on the seat boss to raise it up a little. I trimmed about 1/4" of length off the open end of the chair tips on the rear to keep the excess rubber from bunching up (the seat's rear bosses are a little shorter than the fronts).

In theory, I could add spacers to the front and back to adjust height and level to suit. Obviously this adds height, so if that's a problem, this isn't the mod for you.

 

[dmulk]

Just wanted to report that I performed the mod on a seat concepts regular seat (most recent) today using the instructions in post 1 at the beginning of this thread. The first post suggested using a half height bumper where the tounge fits to the stay to take up slack however as some people reported further on the thread, this left some up and down movement/slack. I also found some side to side on the rear of the seat.

I removed the half height and tried one of the two removed full height bumpers in the same position and that took all slack out of the tounge. Seat feels lower in the rear (pretty much flat now) and doesn't move at all.

Hope this helps.

 

[dmmsta]

I made this change at the weekend, and after my first commute (40mls) I can already feel a marked difference.
This makes the bike infinitely more ridable, and can totally accept that I could do an entire day in the saddle.

For the UK the part number doesn't need the last "-00", and can be found here:
https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/view/22W-24741-00
My apologies if that link has already been shared.

My first "mod" via this site - here's to many more

 

[SHUMBA]

Just wanted to report that I performed the mod on a seat concepts regular seat (most recent) today using the instructions in post 1 at the beginning of this thread. The first post suggested using a half height bumper where the tounge fits to the stay to take up slack however as some people reported further on the thread, this left some up and down movement/slack. I also found some side to side on the rear of the seat.

I removed the half height and tried one of the two removed full height bumpers in the same position and that took all slack out of the tounge. Seat feels lower in the rear (pretty much flat now) and doesn't move at all.

Hope this helps.

Sounds interesting, so did this procedure result in an overall lower seat height?
That would be my goal as I struggle to flat foot with my Tenere's seat in the lower position.
Really don't want to buy another seat.
SHUMBA


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[dmulk]

Sounds interesting, so did this procedure result in an overall lower seat height?
That would be my goal as I struggle to flat foot with my Tenere's seat in the lower position.
Really don't want to buy another seat.
SHUMBA


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No. It simply levels the seat. My brother's bike came with a lowered seat concepts seat that is quite a bit lower. He's 6'3" and wants a standard height seat. So if you decide you want to swap for a standard "seat concepts seat", let me know and I'll put you in touch with him. It also has the leveling bushing in it as well.

Cheers

 

[SHUMBA]

No. It simply levels the seat. My brother's bike came with a lowered seat concepts seat that is quite a bit lower. He's 6'3" and wants a standard height seat. So if you decide you want to swap for a standard "seat concepts seat", let me know and I'll put you in touch with him. It also has the leveling bushing in it as well.

Cheers

Prefer to keep my OEM stock seat because I will sell the bike and work knows a taller rider may buy it.
I do have access to a Yahama lower seat, but would prefer a simple way to modify the existing seat. Just need to get about 25 to 50 mm closer to the ground 1 - 2 inches
SHUMBA

 

[SHUMBA]

No. It simply levels the seat. My brother's bike came with a lowered seat concepts seat that is quite a bit lower. He's 6'3" and wants a standard height seat. So if you decide you want to swap for a standard "seat concepts seat", let me know and I'll put you in touch with him. It also has the leveling bushing in it as well.

Cheers

Hmmm. Depending upon where you live. I'm Canada about 1 1/2 hours from Port Urine Mi. Or 2 1/2 hours from Barfalo, N.Y
Otherwise postal fees would sour swapping seats.
If your brother wants to sell the lower seat, then let me know.
Thanks
SHUMBA

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[regulator]

Another variation on the seat mod (didn't read all replies, apologies if redundant).

I've found some rubber chair tips that fit the seat bosses really well:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Waxman-Gripper-Anti-Skid-4-Pack-7-8-in-Black-Rubber-Tips/1000367981

Manufacturer is Waxman, size 7/8", part number 4440595L, $3 from Lowes.

The underside of the seat has 4 bosses which contact the 4 pads of the plastic insert which adjusts height. I slipped the chair tips on those bosses. On the front pair, I put a felt pad in the chair tip before slipping it on the seat boss to raise it up a little. I trimmed about 1/4" of length off the open end of the chair tips on the rear to keep the excess rubber from bunching up (the seat's rear bosses are a little shorter than the fronts).

In theory, I could add spacers to the front and back to adjust height and level to suit. Obviously this adds height, so if that's a problem, this isn't the mod for you.

Hey Steve,

I'm reading your post and am curious if you installed the tips on the bottom of the seat or the height adjuster bracket itself? The 7/8"set you referred to slides right on the bracket posts, and the back two posts are shorter than the front two.

 

[Cycledude]

Have you been able to properly install your seat on the bike with those bumpers mounted like that ?

 

[regulator]

Have you been able to properly install your seat on the bike with those bumpers mounted like that ?

I haven't tried it yet. Was hoping for some clarification from steve68steve.

 

[steve68steve]

I installed the chair tips on the 4 posts of the moveable plastic frame, not on the rubber seat buttons. I fiddled around with different shim heights (felt chair leg pads) between the rubber tips. IOW, put a washer of felt in the rubber tip before sliding it on the post.

The thinking was that with differential shim heights I could dial in tilt as well as height.

IIRC, I did have to put a spacer under the metal latch bracket on the bottom of the seat to allow the latch to engage the now-farther-away seat.

For all that fiddling, I eventually went with the original seat mod (with the different sized bumpers), and I've since bought a Sargent seat, which I'm also not crazy about.

Making my butt happy has been the biggest struggle with this bike.

 

[Antanas]

After not riding for over a year I was a little apprehensive about striking ount on a 2000+ mile trip to the Smokey Mountains with the stock saddle. My FJR has a Rick Mayer seat and the thought of a stock saddle had my butt cringing and questioning my wisdom over the thought of this trip. I made a slight variation the mod that has been posted on this forum but I did so with pop in and out parts that would make it easy to change back and forth if needed.

I struck out with MarkJenn since he was picking his bike up from my store and also with a friend on his GS. After riding the better part of a week I started home while Mark and Jim went on to West Virginia. I rode the final day 785 miles and could have easily gone another 200-300 miles. Here is how I did essentially the same mod, but with factory parts............

The seat cushions are easily popped out and I didn't want to glue different ones in place so I used the seat cushions from a 2003 Roadstar 1600 which is approximately half the height of the stock S10 cushion. The Yamaha part # is 22W-24741-00-00 and they should be bought for a couple of dollars or so each.

Since I ride with the seat in the high position I only needed to put these in the middle.

I then drilled a hole into the reciever that the "tongue" of the saddle goes into and placed another cushion from the Roadstar in this hole from the bottom up to take up the slack of the rear seat drop.

Another view........

This is easily removed and the stock cushions can be placed back in with no hot glue to deal with removing.

If you use the low position you would just change out the rear-most cushions to get the drop and make the seat essentially flat.

Tony

I did try this seat modification my self, working super for me . Now selling my touratech seat

 

[dmulk]

FWIW, I just completed a 1650 mile IBA ride on a Seat concepts seat with a bead rider pad and seat leveling and i have to say, the seat leveling makes a HUGE difference in long distance comfort.

 

[Bart]

I did the seat mod a while ago to great effect, but with a small variation regarding the rear tongue. To take up the slack on the tongue, rather than add a packer/pad etc I just used a hot air gun and heated the tongue up and bent it up the required amount. No need to glue or drill anything and it is reversible when you come to sell. Just be careful to only heat the tongue and not the seat foam, I placed a damp towel around it for protection.