Used HD PanAm

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Ran into this bike at an area BMW dealer yesterday. There's still time for a fly and ride, but you better hurry.

 

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Holy shit!! Twenty two five . . . . for used?! 500 bucks extra for spoked wheels?! Black not available in CA, but $200 worth of emissions crap is?! I don't know why this bugs me so much, not like I was thinking about getting one. But, over seven grand more for a used H-D, than my brand new Yamaha? Their reliability record versus Yamaha's? Oh well . . . . there's a sucker born every minute.
 
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I dunno Sierra......if they post Jason Momoa's picture with it, it must be worth it.....uh huh, yup.

Odd they did not include the Odometer reading. I am used to seeing it on vehicle ads

I think Harley priced it to the Beemer folks to convince everyone that if it just as high priced it must be as "fancy"
 

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I didn't get the Momoa connection either. Horrible actor, but looked at as a "manly man". Not impressed. Yeah, the lack odometer reading seemed strange to me too. I was thinking that it was maybe priced as a low cost alternative to BMW, with exclusivity, and Momoa manliness.
 

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Could be one of the ones that's been used in their demo rides. And, yeah, the black is better looking than the orange/white, but, it's still ugly from the front. It's OK from the sides.
 

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I really like the Pan Am, but being a cheap guy (we like to all ourselves frugal) I can't spend that kind of money on one. Last I had heard, HD has sold all of them they have built so I guess the price is right for the non-frugal riders out there and it definitely has the tech to back up the price. Too bad the used vehicle market is crazy lately, I can't see the used price dropping on them just yet. Maybe in five years or so I can afford to buy a 2021 model.

As for the looks, I can't think of too many attractive ADV bikes. It almost seems like they make them look goofy on purpose. The HD looks better in person, hard to explain but it's less boxy and bulky.

Get out and ride!
 

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I didn't get the Momoa connection either. Horrible actor, but looked at as a "manly man". Not impressed. Yeah, the lack odometer reading seemed strange to me too. I was thinking that it was maybe priced as a low cost alternative to BMW, with exclusivity, and Momoa manliness.
Jason Mom is well known to be a true Harley fanboy and has been a HD spokesman for a while.

I was at a HD dealer recently and asked the good looking girl at the counter with the usual HD black T-shirt & tats if they had a PanAm.
The "F you you must be a F-ing a$$hole" look and then snearing single "no" with a bit of an eye roll was a model of how to drive customers away.
 

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That used to work. It won't for much longer. But, as we know, H-D is slow to learn/change.
 

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I have owned and rebuilt over 30 HD motorcycles, I would not touch a HD Adventure bike. HD’s are easy to work on because they breakdown so much, it is an oversized Briggs and Stratton motor.
if you want a real adventure buy a HD adventure bike
 

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Jason Mom is well known to be a true Harley fanboy and has been a HD spokesman for a while.

I was at a HD dealer recently and asked the good looking girl at the counter with the usual HD black T-shirt & tats if they had a PanAm.
The "F you you must be a F-ing a$$hole" look and then snearing single "no" with a bit of an eye roll was a model of how to drive customers away.
Her sister must work at the local HD dealer. When I went in to inquire about one it was if I was a lower form of life. “They have one in SLC”. “You can go look at one there”.
No brochure, no talk, nothing.
 

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I wouldn't think of getting one till it has a quick shifter and all the bugs are worked out. If I was in the market, which I'm not.

A friend who is a Harley owner was very tempted, but pulled the trigger on an R1250GS instead. Similar price and the beemer offers more bells and whistles, plus it's not a first year bike.
 

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Back in the late 80s/early 90s, I think that sneering French waiter attitude was actual corporate policy for sales staff at HD. Now that they once again have a bike that there's some actual buzz about, they sound like they've reverted right back to that. That attitude isn't a bug, it's a feature of HD's snobbery. Over the last few years as they were wallowing in sales figures that were half of what they were in 2006, and none of their new models like the 500 were generating any real interest, it was all about rebranding and inclusiveness and bringing in new riders. Now that the Pan Am has people actually talking about HD again, it's right back to the days right after the employee buyout, when Harley created their phony baloney image of the American rebel. Walk into an HD dealership circa 1988 and you'd experience that same snobbery noted in the above posts, of a salesman trying to determine if you were worthy of a Harley.

I had an HD during their boom years, and I have to be honest, I had really positive experiences at their dealerships when I needed something done. But I also remember shopping for a Harley back around 1988, and the experiences of Checkswrecks and Mak10 at those dealerships were pretty consistent with mine.
 

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Back in the late 80s/early 90s, I think that sneering French waiter attitude was actual corporate policy for sales staff at HD. Now that they once again have a bike that there's some actual buzz about, they sound like they've reverted right back to that. That attitude isn't a bug, it's a feature of HD's snobbery. Over the last few years as they were wallowing in sales figures that were half of what they were in 2006, and none of their new models like the 500 were generating any real interest, it was all about rebranding and inclusiveness and bringing in new riders. Now that the Pan Am has people actually talking about HD again, it's right back to the days right after the employee buyout, when Harley created their phony baloney image of the American rebel. Walk into an HD dealership circa 1988 and you'd experience that same snobbery noted in the above posts, of a salesman trying to determine if you were worthy of a Harley.

I had an HD during their boom years, and I have to be honest, I had really positive experiences at their dealerships when I needed something done. But I also remember shopping for a Harley back around 1988, and the experiences of Checkswrecks and Mak10 at those dealerships were pretty consistent with mine.
I'm sure it's not corporate policy. They just haven't weeded out the sales people with bad attitudes.
 

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I'm sure it's not corporate policy. They just haven't weeded out the sales people with bad attitudes.
I agree. I doubt it is corporate policy. Worse, I think it is the corporate sales/marketing culture. Much harder to fix
 

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I'm also sure it isn't an actual written corporate policy ; it was hyperbole. My bad, if that got lost in translation.
 
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The face you greet at the front desk and somewhat for the sales staff reflect the attitude of the owner or manager of a business, be it McDonalds vs Chick-Fil-A or HD vs Yamaha dealers. The problem at HD dealers seems to come from what or whomever is driving the owners.
 
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