Unmarked Police in Western Australia...
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Scoobynut
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How to handle unmarked police in the U.S:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgZ5_tMzvOM
Best brush up on the statutes in OZ!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgZ5_tMzvOM
Best brush up on the statutes in OZ!
That is so cool. wish I would have had one back in the day.....
The statutes in OZ say, and I quote..Scoobynut said:
I read that these police are picking up car drivers that are texting and using mobile phones. If thats true then good on them. It might save a few bikers lives
Brian
Brian
RIVA
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Why?. Are you one of those who drives your cage unatenntively, while using your mobile and put motorcyclist lives at risk? SHAME on you.Scoobynut said:
Andylaser
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I appear to have spat my lunch over my monitor. People are staring at me. ???GrahamD said:
ozmoto
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Here is a link to a TV news story about the bikes ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0raQUKgQwc
I'm very happy that they are targeting motorists using mobile phones etc while driving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0raQUKgQwc
I'm very happy that they are targeting motorists using mobile phones etc while driving
HHH
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Brilliant, thank you for sharing!ozmoto said:Here is a link to a TV news story about the bikes ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0raQUKgQwc
I'm very happy that they are targeting motorists using mobile phones etc while driving
lol ;D
Scoobynut
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Not sure where you get that from a citizen exercising his constitutional rights...in any event, if they are using some of these unmarked cars to nab texting drivers, I too am for that. However, as shown in the video, police in some jurisdictions in the U.S. are required to display correct license plates and have a sticker in the window if driving unmarked cars. The reason they are driving an unmarked car is immaterial -- we as citizens have a right to know when we are being observed in a furtive and clandestine manner by our government. Period. Otherwise you may end up in the same boat as Graham, asked to supply your own lube etc. Just outrageous that is!RIVA said:Why?. Are you one of those who drives your cage unatenntively, while using your mobile and put motorcyclist lives at risk? SHAME on you.
Seriously the way it works here, and here we go with the 1000 post pissing match, is the Guvmint provides almost free not for for profit hospital and health care paid for by the Guvmint. So when bikes are being crushed by idiots on phones and and it is costing money that could have been spent on things for "non idiots" then the Guvmint starts with an education campaign about being silly. Then after a while if that doesn't work they put things like "if you don't stop being idiots we will crank it up a bit" in the education campaign. Then after a few more 100 or thousand maimed people are waddling around costing ongoing millions in rehabilitation etc, they then look at the stats and go "alright we are serious this time, if you keep doing that" and if that doesn't change then the bend over law starts. No ifs No buts, by any means necessary, short of starting civil riots which then statistically will cause more maimings and be counter productive. The Police are 99% firm, fair and straight to the point, but don't muck around with BS. You fight it in court of you think you have a case. And you have the right to do that and it is printed on every ticket. If you start arguing the pint it just gives them more time to check the vehicle for defects pretending to give a crap about what you are saying. The second social contract on that one is that you don't get too many surprises with the health system either. If you need it you pretty much get it. No if's No Buts if it is life threatening. If not you may have to wait a bit, because they may have a few crushed bikers to attend to first. The police are paid for my state Governments, The health is Federal / State.Scoobynut said:
RIVA
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Seems to me to be a much better alternative than being the main participant in a post mortem ::015:: ::025::Scoobynut said:
Scoobynut
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Well, I, like Graham I believe, am not looking to turn this into a pissing match, nor (I hope) a political rant. And maybe I am a little off topic, for that I apologize. I guess my main point is that when governments attempt to enforce laws, even for noble reasons -- in this case preventing texting while driving -- we as citizens still need to be vigilant that same governments aren't using their original reasons for monitoring our behavior as an excuse to unjustifiably expand the monitoring into any other parts of our behavior. Liberty requires vigilant and robust monitoring of the government agencies designed to serve the citizens. Bottom line is to trust, but verify that we aren't being excessively protected from ourselves. This is more important than ever in our post-modern world of ever-expanding regulatory superstates I believe.
I agree. We have already wound back some over the top NSW police speeding rules in my State. Class action was bought against the Guvmint for overdoing minor traffic offenses. They won and they were wound back. We also ALL have to vote. So the Government can't hide behind apathy or bad weather either.Scoobynut said:
Scoobynut
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That's what I'm talkin' about! Good for you guys, Graham. Governments can be like a bad boss -- if you let them run you over...they will continue to do so.