Tyre puncture prevention

[Cycledude]

First time I ever heard of a porcupine quill actually puncturing a tire.

 

[WJBertrand]

The cement acts as both a lube and as a filler for tiny areas where the sticky string might not bond on it's own in irregular holes.

I always use glue too, even though the plug kits say it isn't needed, for exactly the above reasons. one caution is to wait a little before getting back underway so that most of the glue solvent has evaporated. Usually only takes a few minutes, You want to give the glue a little time to set up and avoid lubing the plug back out again!

 

[semmyroundel]

This sounds like my experience. I tried both Dyna plugs and Stop n Go products, and though others have had luck with them, I've had none. The Stop n Go plugs are unreinforced and tore apart when I tried to plug a tire in the middle of nowhere in the rain returning from Montana. I tried several times with no success and ended up tossing the whole kit into a roadside rest stop trash bin out of frustration. Luckily I had a couple of the red automotive sticky string "gummy worm" thread reinforced plugs and tools along with me. That worked the first time. I thought the Stop n Go kit was going to be an upgrade, glad I held onto my back ups. In that case I happened only to have CO2 cartridges, but I had done the tire volume calculations and figured I needed ~7 of them to pressurized the rear tire to 42 PSI. I tossed in 8 figuring I'd waste the first one trying to use the inflator. As it turned out, I forgot about the fudge factor and ended up putting in all 8. That pressurized the tier to >50PSI! The gummy plug was holding so I skedaddled to the closest town and stopped at the first service station I saw with an air hose and determined the repair was holding up just fine.

On the road again I started to worry that if that first attempt to seal the tire hadn't worked I'd be out of CO2, so have since added a compact 12V compressor to my kit. Since then I've plugged both car and bike tires at least a half dozen times or more (I had an incredibly run of bad luck with punctures a few years back) with gummy worms having a 99.9% first try success rate. In all cases I ran the plugged tires until they were worn out. The reason my success was not 100% was I had one plug that developed a slow leak (a couple of PSI a day) after a few thousand miles. I just ended up re-plugging it and that was that. I had a buddy with a Gold Wing who had tried to repair a rear flat with a Stop n Go plug on a day ride, but a few miles later the entire plug was spat out and he suffered a sudden deflation. Luckily he is a very skilled rider and avoided an accident.

That's it then-decision made, I'll get the gummy method with T-bar handles on tools, and of course make sure there's glue with the kit.
I've already ordered a mini compressor, so that'll complete the kit

 

[Clawdog60]

I like my mini slime kit/compressor that came in a zippered hard case. Holds plugs T-handle driver and scratcher and doesn't take up much room.
I always carry it on long trips, have never had to use it.....so far. I shouldn't have said that. But I'm prepared.

 

[semmyroundel]

I thought it was on this forum that someone mentioned OKO "slime" goop, but I can't find it now.
What do you guys think about that as a preventative measure?
Is it even compatible with the gummy rope fixing kit, or should I just avoid it altogether?

Incidentally, how wrong was I? The sportster does indeed have tubeless tyres, it must just have been the XT660X.

I'm now the proud owner of a mini compressor and rope kit with TBar handles, ready for any repair, these will go with me now on any journey.

 

[EricV]

My limited experience with Slime goo and sticky strings is that once you've added the Slime goo, no sticky string will bond in the tire. They just sli out again, even with the twist prior to removal of the insertion tool. I had that problem in Alaska when I got multiple punctures and resorted to Slime, which didn't work well for me that time, causing me to attempt further repair with sticky strings, then give up and walk a mile with the wheel to an auto tire shop that fixed it from the inside. Cost me and extra $20 because of the Slime since it makes such a mess when they dismount the tire.

Ride-On has some impressive qualities, but it's important to remember that if you put it in after the fact, you better go for a ride so it moves around and into the hole. It works well as something already in the tire when you get a puncture. If you pull the offending item out of the tire with the hole up, no liquid will be present inside to seal the hole and you'll just lose air. So roll the bike so the hole is down or ride a short distance, check and top off air. I imagine other similar goo will behave in a similar fashion.

 

[Stantdm]

I am leaving mid-week on a trip with the Tenere and have what seem to be the correct ropes, glue, and tools. Good to know about the Slime problem and the rope patches. I was thinking about putting the Slime in the tire but will just trust in the repair materials.

 

[Jlq1969]

In my humble opinion, slime has only been useful for punctures with small spines, and especially on tubeless tires. In tube tires, if the spine is still stuck in the tire… it will continue to puncture. And in either of the two previous cases, always placing "double" the recommended amount or replenishing (because it begins to dry internally). But if the puncture is bigger (nail / rock / screw)… slime will “complicate” or make it almost impossible, the repair with worms or an inner patch (you have to clean everything) , just like Eric said. Slime comes with rubber microspheres, which help to cover "micro punctures"

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . I'm now the proud owner of a mini compressor and rope kit with TBar handles, ready for any repair, these will go with me now on any journey.

I've noticed that an increasing number of cars are replacing spare tires with repair kits. My thoughts are that if people have problems fixing a flat with a conventional spare tire, and jack. . . . they're very likely to have even more issues with a kit.

 

[SHUMBA]

I've noticed that an increasing number of cars are replacing spare tires with repair kits. My thoughts are that if people have problems fixing a flat with a conventional spare tire, and jack. . . . they're very likely to have even more issues with a kit.

Agree, that is what CAA is for.
I think in the U.S.A. you call it AAA.
The vast majority of women along with numerous males couldn't change a tyre to save their lives.
Sadly, my 2020 Africa Twin DCT is equipped with tube tyres...the Adventure model has tubless tyres.
Honda, WTF??
SHUMBA

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[RIVA]

I find Project Farm reviews very interesting

 

[PhilPhilippines]

I thought this was quite informing...

 

[Thrasherg]

I was surprised to see that he tested the plugs strength by pushing the plug back into the tyre, I thought the reason the permenant repair and the mushroom repair are their shape was to prevent the air pressure inside the tyre from forcing the bung out? Not to stop them from being pushed back in? Enjoyed the video, just not sure he is right about what force direction on the bung is more critical? But the rope repair still looks very good.

 

[PhilPhilippines]

I was surprised to see that he tested the plugs strength by pushing the plug back into the tyre, I thought the reason the permenant repair and the mushroom repair are their shape was to prevent the air pressure inside the tyre from forcing the bung out? Not to stop them from being pushed back in? Enjoyed the video, just not sure he is right about what force direction on the bung is more critical? But the rope repair still looks very good.

You have a valid point there that I had not considered...

 

[semmyroundel]

That's right, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing...
Anything can be made to look good, or bad for that matter, and as I said before, with recent posts about slime, I'm going to keep the rope method ONLY from now on.
In fact, my wife's Volvo V40 has a slime compressor instead of a spare tyre (we were told at last service it was out of date by dealership, presumably hoping to sell me a new one).
That has now been replaced by a rope kit as I mentioned before, the slime compressor can simply be used AFTER the rope and rubber cement is glued and set (I'm guessing 10 mins should do it) just to inflate thetyre.
I will try and get rid of the slime beforehand if possible.

 

[DamonS]

I was surprised to see that he tested the plugs strength by pushing the plug back into the tyre, I thought the reason the permenant repair and the mushroom repair are their shape was to prevent the air pressure inside the tyre from forcing the bung out? Not to stop them from being pushed back in? Enjoyed the video, just not sure he is right about what force direction on the bung is more critical? But the rope repair still looks very good.

test is valid from what I see. air pressure is static holding pressure, which acts as part of the sealing plane. any attack on the tire, and more specifically that patched area will be from punctures or pressure from the outside. It would be critically important to know that if something as simple as a rock on the road, that i happened to run over is enough to dislodge the patch and deflate the tire again.

 

[Sierra1]

Video pretty much confirmed what I'd heard. The gummi worms: crude, but very effective. Internal patch/plugs: hard to beat, but more complicated. The other two: not even gonna try 'em.

 

[RIVA]

Best Tire Repair Kit? Slime, Westweld, Dynaplug, Grand Pitstop - YouTube

 

[Tenman]

I tried a dyna plug on a skinny rusty nail. The nail was at a slight angle. Got ready to ride the next day. It didn’t work. Luckily I was in the yard. Whooped out my dollar store plug kit and rode it till it was slick. Can’t make myself throw that pos dontaplug away.

 

[Tenman]

Just tried my dyna plug out again. Didn't hold. Finally throwing it way.