Twisted Throttle S10 Gear is Here!

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Great news... The shipment of S10 gear has just arrived from SW-MOTECH. :) I haven't gone down yet to look at it yet. Waiting "like a good boy" for the receiving staff to put it on the shelves before I go start poking around.

I've seen a bunch of orders for Tenere stuff so if you're waiting it should ship shortly. This includes the winner of the Holday Raffle "Fredz" - Your skidplate will be on the way shortly. Congrats again. Be sure to post an honest review and some pictures.
 

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Good news guys!! I'll be sending in an order soon thru John Berry in San Jose, Costa Rica, Central America. My wife & I took the final look at (our new Silver S10) and helped the salesman open and see for the first time, all the accessories, ya know, side bags, aluminium skid plate, headlight cover, and other mounting brackets. We fly to Pan. City to see lawyers, other business associates, and the final meeting at" YAMAHA CENTRAL", to decide on final, absolute bottom line, $CASH PRICE$, out the door, license, Import Duty's, and other hidden hand outs.
We'll be doing a lot of local "sea trialling" in all the bounty of Chiriqui roads on the S10 in full regalia. I figure if we shake it all out now, ya know, weight down the side bags, tank bag, extra fuel, tools, water then head up to Costa Rica to put on the rest of the stuff.
Then it's off to each coast by way of Corpus Cristy, Tx., Hattysburg, Miss, Dear Field Beach, Fl., 84th & Riverside, upper West side, Manhattan, NY, then Grand Canion and all points of interest on the way to San Diego, Ca. We'll be visiting friends, NEW friends, relatives, and old honts up thru Monterey, Salinas, Santa Cruz, San Francisco, Incline Village, Lake Tahoe, Ca. Reno Ne., Oregon, Washington, (Altrider) Vancouver Island, BC. Then East to all the world famous Parks across the Northern part of the country, depending on weather, then down to enter Mexico at Brownsville, Tx. Then, back to Central American Hospitality!! We'll stay to the Gulf Coast thru Belese, Eastern Guatemala, North Central Honduras, North Western Nicaragua thru the hottest recorded point in Central Am., and bypass Managua, at all costs. The border crossing into CR can be a hassle, but once in, it's one of the most beautiful places to ride.
We'll be looking for fellow S10 and other local knowledgeable riders to ride with up there. We really do want to see more of our native country before too many more bridges fall.
Cheers, GP
 

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motopan said:
Good news guys!! I'll be sending in an order soon thru John Berry in San Jose, Costa Rica, Central America. My wife & I took the final look at (our new Silver S10) and helped the salesman open and see for the first time, all the accessories, ya know, side bags, aluminium skid plate, headlight cover, and other mounting brackets. We fly to Pan. City to see lawyers, other business associates, and the final meeting at" YAMAHA CENTRAL", to decide on final, absolute bottom line, $CASH PRICE$, out the door, license, Import Duty's, and other hidden hand outs.
We'll be doing a lot of local "sea trialling" in all the bounty of Chiriqui roads on the S10 in full regalia. I figure if we shake it all out now, ya know, weight down the side bags, tank bag, extra fuel, tools, water then head up to Costa Rica to put on the rest of the stuff.
Then it's off to each coast by way of Corpus Cristy, Tx., Hattysburg, Miss, Dear Field Beach, Fl., 84th & Riverside, upper West side, Manhattan, NY, then Grand Canion and all points of interest on the way to San Diego, Ca. We'll be visiting friends, NEW friends, relatives, and old honts up thru Monterey, Salinas, Santa Cruz, San Francisco, Incline Village, Lake Tahoe, Ca. Reno Ne., Oregon, Washington, (Altrider) Vancouver Island, BC. Then East to all the world famous Parks across the Northern part of the country, depending on weather, then down to enter Mexico at Brownsville, Tx. Then, back to Central American Hospitality!! We'll stay to the Gulf Coast thru Belese, Eastern Guatemala, North Central Honduras, North Western Nicaragua thru the hottest recorded point in Central Am., and bypass Managua, at all costs. The border crossing into CR can be a hassle, but once in, it's one of the most beautiful places to ride.
We'll be looking for fellow S10 and other local knowledgeable riders to ride with up there. We really do want to see more of our native country before too many more bridges fall.
Cheers, GP
Now that is one heck of a trip you have planned! I hope you keep a running log as you go and post your ride reports when you can along the way. As long as you are "in the area" why not stop in and see us in Southern Rhode Island If you travel up 95 to Boston we are only about 6-8 miles off of the highway or 2 miles off of Route 1. Here is the address and GPS Coordinates:


Twisted Throttle LLC
1080 Kingstown Rd, Building 1
Peace Dale, RI 02879 USA
GPS: 41.4508086124326 -71.49685084819794
Phone: +1 (401) 284-2400
 

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That's good news!!! Since you are also a Givi dealer, can you do any kind of comparison of the pannier mounts between the two?
 

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That's good news!!! Since you are also a Givi dealer, can you do any kind of comparison of the pannier mounts between the two?
We have only yet seen photos of the Givi sidecarriers. Like SW-MOTECH they are quick-release so you can take them off of the bike when not using them. Always a bonus. Also comparing the two systems the SW-MOTECH has 4 mounting points per side as opposed to 3 on the GIVI setup. The images of the GIVI rig do not give an indication as to how wide the racks are. Basically, it is too early to tell yet what the main differences between the systems are.
 

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Now that we have them I tore open a Skidplate for the S10. I wanted to see it before we sent out the one to FredZ [which shipped yesterday] Dang is that thing solid. The are 4 engineered mounting brackets with rubber isolation grommets and bumpers and a ton of fasteners to help distribute the force of an impact. If you were to roll over an M1 tank I would feel sorry for the tank.
 

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twistedthrottle said:
We have only yet seen photos of the Givi sidecarriers. Like SW-MOTECH they are quick-release so you can take them off of the bike when not using them. Always a bonus. Also comparing the two systems the SW-MOTECH has 4 mounting points per side as opposed to 3 on the GIVI setup. The images of the GIVI rig do not give an indication as to how wide the racks are. Basically, it is too early to tell yet what the main differences between the systems are.
Hmm, from the pictures I have seen, the Givi also has a 4th brace, but it is an arm between the two sides racks (running inside the rear fender). SW-MoTech appears to physically attach to the rear fender versus the arm that Givi utilizes. Is this correct?
 

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Colorider, you are correct. Givi rack has four mount points with the rear brace extending across just forward of the rear mudflap.
 

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SpeedStar said:
Colorider, you are correct. Givi rack has four mount points with the rear brace extending across just forward of the rear mudflap.
That being the case, I'd guess there "may" be a slight increase in strength with the SWM setup over the Givi. Not sure it would be worth the difference in co$t though. I'm still thinking Givi is the way to go.

Now all we need is some "special pricing" for the Givi setup!!!

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colorider said:
That being the case, I'd guess there "may" be a slight increase in strength with the SWM setup over the Givi. Not sure it would be worth the difference in co$t though. I'm still thinking Givi is the way to go.

Now all we need is some "special pricing" for the Givi setup!!!

Hint-Hint
I completely missed the fourth mounting point... I would actually say though that the bar bolted to the rear fender offers a small advantage as it will help reduce "sway" just a little bit. The action of a side to side motion tends to make the quick release holes round out and fail. We have seen premature failures due to this issue. Whenever possible we design sidecarriers to use the rear fender to avoid this.
 

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Another question for Twisted..........

When do you expect to have the Fenda Extenda shown on your site in stock and available for order?

Thanks!
 

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Just spoke with the purchasing agent who handles the Pyramid Plastics account and he said there are some that left England today and unless they get held up in customs we should have them in hand in 2 weeks. They do not have apicture for the website but as soon as I have one I will take a shot and post it.



colorider said:
Another question for Twisted..........

When do you expect to have the Fenda Extenda shown on your site in stock and available for order?

Thanks!
 

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I just used the "contact us" button on the website to ask about shipping to Portugal and then I remember this site :mad:

I'll wait for my answer
 

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twistedthrottle said:
Just spoke with the purchasing agent who handles the Pyramid Plastics account and he said there are some that left England today and unless they get held up in customs we should have them in hand in 2 weeks. They do not have apicture for the website but as soon as I have one I will take a shot and post it.
Great!!!! I'll order one then.

Thanks!

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colorider said:
Great!!!! I'll order one then.

Thanks!

Rod
Happy to help. You can go ahead and order it doesn't have to be in stock. You should receive an email telling you of the delay and once it is in another telling you it shipped.

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Happy to help. You can go ahead and order it doesn't have to be in stock. You should receive an email telling you of the delay and once it is in another telling you it shipped.

Kev
Kev, do you know what the price is going to be yet?


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colorider said:
That's good news!!! Since you are also a Givi dealer, can you do any kind of comparison of the pannier mounts between the two?
Here's an article on our website describing the TYPICAL differences between Givi and SW-MOTECH sidecarriers:
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/article/articleview/410/1/18/

The most common variance from the specifications in this article is the support arm count and how the support arms connect with the rear fender (or not).

This photo shows the difference in duty rating of materials used: Givi is on the left; the SW-MOTECH is shown on the right. The larger look of the SW-MOTECH is not a perspective trick - the SW-MOTECH tubing has a cross sectional area nearly twice that of the Givi tubing:


Here is an excerpt from the article:

SW-MOTECH

SW-MOTECH was the first company to introduce the "QUICK-LOCK". First created in 1999, SW-MOTECH's QUICK-LOCK sidecarriers allow you to easily remove the sidecarriers when you're not using your sidecases. Lockable QUICK-LOCK fasteners provide the sidecarrier system with keyed security so that the sidecarriers cannot be easily removed by would-be thieves. All SW-MOTECH sidecarriers come with the QUICK-LOCK function.

SW-MOTECH typically uses 4 attachment arms for each sidecarrier hoop on "adventure" or "enduro" motorcycles like the BMW R1200GS, Suzuki DL650 V-Strom, and Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere to provide maximum strength for off-road use. SW-MOTECH typically uses 3 attachment arms for each sidecarrier hoop on dedicated sport bikes like the Suzuki Bandit or Honda VFR800 to provide decreased weight.

On bikes with a single-sided exhaust, SW-MOTECH typically keeps the sidecarrier on the non-exhaust side of the bike as close to the bike as possible, creating an asymmetrical sidecarrier. This keeps the weight of the cases as close to the center line of the bike as possible, providing better handling. Because the sidecarrier support arms are as short as possible, the carrier is more resistant to crash damage or breakage from being overloaded. Because the sidecarriers are asymmetrical, some riders choose to place a wider sidecase on the non-exhaust side of the bike to try to make the bike look more "even". This is a purely aesthetic decision and will not significantly affect the handling of the motorcycle.

SW-MOTECH's fender mounting points are designed to work with both European and North American license plate mounts and fenders.

SW-MOTECH material specifications:
Flat mounting arms: 6mm thick x 30mm wide mild steel typical - varies by application
Tubular mounting arms: 17.5mm outer diameter tubes with approximately 2.5mm wall thickness
Sidecarrier hoop: 15mm x 30mm oval tubing for increased rigidity


Givi

Most Givi sidecarriers are permanently mounted to the bike and cannot be removed without tools. These sidecarrier part numbers start with "PL". Givi released a "Rapid Release" sidecarrier similar to SW-MOTECH's QUICK-LOCK sidecarrier in 2009; the part numbers for Givi's removable carriers start with "PLR".

Givi sidecarriers typically use only 3 attachment arms for each sidecarrier hoop. This saves weight and cost, but does not provide as much strength as typical SW-MOTECH sidecarriers on adventure and enduro motorcycles.

On bikes with a single sided exhaust, Givi typically makes its sidecarriers symmetrical. This keeps the cases an equal distance from the center line of the bike, and results in the case on the non-exhaust side of the bike being spaced further out than necessary. Because the support arms are longer than necessary, more torque is placed on the mounting arms on the non-exhaust side of the bike, decreasing effective strength vs. a sidecarrier designed with shorter support arms. Givi typically sells symmetrical luggage cases, so it chooses to make its carriers symmetrical.

Givi designs its rear fender mount on its PLR "Rapid Release" racks to work with European bike models only and does not provide a "fit kit" for proper installation on North American fender styles. On some bikes, this is not a problem, but on others, your bike (or the Givi kit) may need to be modified to install the PLR carrier. Check with us before ordering a Givi PLR carrier if you're concerned about needing to modify the fit for your motorcycle.

Material specifications:
Flat mounting arms: 4mm thick x 25mm wide mild steel typical - varies by application (45% lower cross sectional area than SW-MOTECH mounting arms)
Tubular mounting arms: 16mm outer diameter tubes with approximately 2.2mm wall thickness (16% lower cross sectional area with a 12% lower wall thickness than SW-MOTECH sidecarrier arms)
Sidecarrier hoop: 16mm outer diameter round tubing (43% lower cross sectional area than SW-MOTECH sidecarrier hoops)

Conclusion
If your motorcycle is dedicated to street use and you do not typically overload your motorcycle, Givi sidecarriers are an economical solution for mounting hard cases on your motorcycle.

If you ride an adventure or enduro motorcycle that you may take off-road, or if you are just plain rough on your gear and tend to overload your bike, you may be better off spending a few extra bucks and getting the significantly beefier SW-MOTECH sidecarriers.

As in a lot of things - you get what you pay for. SW-MOTECH's sale price is higher, in part, because they use more metal. Givi's sidecarriers, while they will definitely do the job for the average street rider, may not take as much of a beating as SW-MOTECH sidecarriers.

YMMV
 

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Thanks for the notification twisted....

As I will be carrying a passenger much of the time, will these work or will I need another style?
Thanks in advance

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As I will be carrying a passenger much of the time, will these work or will I need another style?
Thanks in advance
I'm note quite sure I know what you're asking, but I assume you're asking about whether SW-MOTECH sidecarriers can be used with a passenger?

There was an early post somewhere that SW-MOTECH sidecarriers weren't designed for use with a passenger. This post was false - it was a typo copied from another product description.

As discussed elsewhere in this forum, SW-MOTECH sidecarriers provide adequate passenger clearances similar to those provided by other brands of sidecarriers.
 
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