The new Mitas E07 Adventure tire (tyre)

[SkunkWorks]

I need to be ordering new tires soon, running E07 Dakars now. Has anyone here actually tried the E07+? I would be curious how much less mileage you get in reality? I'm getting just over 8kmi on the old model before they are significantly squared and not quite to the wear bars. (Do you run them all the way to wear bars?)

The K60 is $194 compared to $167 for the 07+ (Twisted Throttle). So far I haven't done any long mileage trips, but I do ride some fairly challenging trails in Arizona that would probably benefit from the 07+ design objectives.

Side note: I've got 16kmi on the front, but with cupping. Probably need to run higher pressure than my nominal 32 psi (cold).

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My latest report on the E07+Dakar rear is in post #44
This was just after getting home from Arizona.
With the wear I've been seeing on the rear, I would probably expect around 7500-8,000 miles on it.
The front E07 Dakar will likely last a whole other rear tire...............

 

[jeckyll]

I never get as much out of tires as others, the current e07+ will likely get to 6000 miles.

Worst is that the traction doesn't seem to be any better when leaned right over.

Have a tractionator gps on the way right now.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

Just realizing what I gave up going from the E07 to the K60. Just did the scrub-in ride. On pavement the K60 puts out noticeable vibration at low speed.

20 miles into the ride I finally hit a gravel road. A nice, and sometimes a little steep and occasionally rough road, close to my house (you've been on it Checks). It's a good thing I like to powerslide, because the K60 rear doesn't have anywhere near the traction of my (down to the wear bars) E07. It was a little shocking how poorly the K60 held a line with even a slightly enthusiastic throttle hand. I'm going to have to really hold back with this tire. Damn you Mitas for robbing me of a E07 Dakar.

I'm sure I'll make friends with the K60 again, but first impression was a let down.

On the positive side, finally went through my inventory of tires which were prematurely removed in preparation for a trip. I have about 3 full sets of semi-used E07s that will definitely be making a reappearance on the bike.

 

[ballisticexchris]

That's too bad about the handling of the tire. I have never been a fan of any kind of "chevron style" tire patterns. They just don't have the traction in the dirt needed to make me feel safe. I want a tire that has predictable bite front and rear.

 

[SilverBullet]

I'm dreading having to switch someday as well. Only have 2 sets of E-07 Dakar's remaining so my days are numbered. I will not buy K60's, current choice would be Motoz Tractionator GPS but dang they're expensive.

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[SilverBullet]

That's too bad about the handling of the tire. I have never been a fan of any kind of "chevron style" tire patterns. They just don't have the traction in the dirt needed to make me feel safe. I want a tire that has predictable bite front and rear.

You keep repeating this. Mitas E-07 Dakar traction is very predictable on and off road. But they are a 50/50 tire, not a knobby so dirt traction is compromised accordingly so adjust your riding accordingly. There is no better all around tire for the big Tenere. Nothing else even comes close!

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[holligl]

Are you infering the E07+ handling is worse than the old E07? I thought it was just a longevity issue. I think I may try one shortly to findout for myself. Sounds like I wouldn't like the K60 other than mileage. Squeezing the last miles out of the current E07, just not planning any long trips on it.

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[ballisticexchris]

You keep repeating this. Mitas E-07 Dakar traction is very predictable on and off road. But they are a 50/50 tire, not a knobby so dirt traction is compromised accordingly so adjust your riding accordingly. There is no better all around tire for the big Tenere. Nothing else even comes close!

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There is nothing better than a knobby for off road and I will not compromise my safety. It's impossible to adjust your riding to prevent the front and coming out from under you with a sub par tire in the dirt. I have been down that road before. Bottom line is ride what you feel safe with.

 

[jeckyll]

You keep repeating this. Mitas E-07 Dakar traction is very predictable on and off road. But they are a 50/50 tire, not a knobby so dirt traction is compromised accordingly so adjust your riding accordingly. There is no better all around tire for the big Tenere. Nothing else even comes close!

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That's a pretty strong statement

It'd be great to hear what other tires you've personally tried to compare against the E-07 and how their faired!

 

[jeckyll]

Are you infering the E07+ handling is worse than the old E07? I thought it was just a longevity issue. I think I may try one shortly to findout for myself. Sounds like I wouldn't like the K60 other than mileage. Squeezing the last miles out of the current E07, just not planning any long trips on it.

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I ran both back to back and I couldn't tell a difference in terms of traction.

Edit: Ran them in dualsport situations, onroad for a day, then offroading, then back onroad to return home

 

[SilverBullet]

There is nothing better than a knobby for off road and I will not compromise my safety. It's impossible to adjust your riding to prevent the front and coming out from under you with a sub par tire in the dirt. I have been down that road before. Bottom line is ride what you feel safe with.

Adjust your riding as in don't put yourself in dirt conditions that your tires and you cannot handle. Sure a knobby is much better off road but you'll be lucky to get 2k-3k miles out of one and then that tire will be much less safe on pavement. I enjoy riding very spirited on pavement as much as riding off pavement. Just don't say it's not a good 50/50 tire because it is. And I get 10k-11k miles from one. Most of my trips are 5k miles or longer, longevity is a necessity.

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[SilverBullet]

Are you infering the E07+ handling is worse than the old E07? I thought it was just a longevity issue.

No I'm not. Only longevity.

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[SilverBullet]

That's a pretty strong statement

It'd be great to hear what other tires you've personally tried to compare against the E-07 and how their faired!

OEM tires
Full Bore/ Shinko 705
Shinko 804/805
Mitas E-09
Mitas E-10 Dakar
Pirelli Scorpion
Continental TKC-80
Maybe 1 or 2 others I can't recollect

For a 50/50 tire none of the above even a close 2nd to the E-07 Dakar. On/off traction, wet/dry traction, flat prevention, longevity, price value.

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[jeckyll]

OEM tires
Full Bore/ Shinko 705
Shinko 804/805
Mitas E-09
Mitas E-10 Dakar
Pirelli Scorpion
Continental TKC-80
Maybe 1 or 2 others I can't recollect

For a 50/50 tire none of the above even a close 2nd to the E-07 Dakar. On/off traction, wet/dry traction, flat prevention, longevity, price value.

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Thank you, great info.

I'm just running my current E-07+ Dakar down a to the wear-bars (it's getting close) and have a Motoz Tractionator GPS waiting to go on, I'm hoping that it'll behave as well as people say and be better than the E-07+ in longevity

 

[ballisticexchris]

Adjust your riding as in don't put yourself in dirt conditions that your tires and you cannot handle. Sure a knobby is much better off road but you'll be lucky to get 2k-3k miles out of one and then that tire will be much less safe on pavement. I enjoy riding very spirited on pavement as much as riding off pavement. Just don't say it's not a good 50/50 tire because it is. And I get 10k-11k miles from one. Most of my trips are 5k miles or longer, longevity is a necessity.

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It's pretty much impossible to predict what road conditions will be when hitting the dirt. Last weeks smooth fire road could be this weeks deep sandy leftover from a flash flood or off camber rocky ruts from a hillsid collapse. If I have a trip that outlasts the tires I'm running I simply have one shipped to a dealer during the trip.

While this is a thread about the E07, It's important for fellow riders to know that these are not the best thing since sliced bread. It's just got a lot of internet craze that has people buying them. As I've stated many times tire longevity should have no bearing on choosing a tire. And as you have stated you want a good performing tire that lasts. If it works for you that's fantastic.

 

[RonH]

More I read and debate, I think still at this point for me just simply going to the 140/80 E07 Dakar is best bet. Seems like a lot of negative on the Motoz and Heidenau from guys I trust on the various forums.

 

[Don in Lodi]

You'll let us know how the slightly smaller tire performs/looks, right?

 

[eemsreno]

I just finished a 3,000 mile trip loaded heavy and 2up. For the first 1,000 miles just 2up riding around home on the 07+ I really couldn't tell much difference from the E07.
But fully loaded on a 3,000 mile trip I am convinced that the new 07+ is a better tire for fully loaded 2up riding. The Tenere has never been that planted to the surface and solid feeling with that much load. With 4,000 miles on the tire now it is about 1/2 gone. If the wear slows down for the last 1/2 I could be pretty pleased with the 07+ overall.
I think I'll be putting another 07+ on again.

 

[ballisticexchris]

More I read and debate, I think still at this point for me just simply going to the 140/80 E07 Dakar is best bet. Seems like a lot of negative on the Motoz and Heidenau from guys I trust on the various forums.

You do know Mitas makes the 150/70 Dakar version in the E-10.

 

[RCinNC]

An E10 isn't a 50-50 tire (though in general those terms aren't all that descriptive), it's a 70/30 tire with the bias towards dirt. If you don't like how knobby tires ride and feel on the street, then I doubt that an E10 is a replacement for an E07.