I had a DCT Africa Twin. The DCT worked well enough while I was slogging through traffic on my commute and didn't care what gear I was in. But out touring when I did care I spent so much time correcting unwanted shifts that I would just leave it in manual most of the time.Tube type tires , chain drive and no cruise control were the Big things that kept me away from the AFrica Twin. For 2020 Honda finally has cruise and tubeless options so I would be a lot more interested if I was buying today and I would also choose the automatic DCT transmission.
Yup, even a broken ABS sensor will stop the bike from shifting."Way to complicated for it's own good". Perfectly put.
Lose one little sensor or wire connection and you are stranded. I think some other owners have reported times where they lost a rear wheel speed sensor. Bike fell over or caught the wire on a something and he was stranded.
Computer can't determine if you are speeding up or down so can't switch gears. Bike would start but would not even shift into first because it couldn't find all the sensor inputs required.
I would love to try one and I am sure for most riders it would be a good bike. I prefer simple and don't want to be stranded because of some stupid electronic gadgets.
The older I get get the more I wish for my old KLR that can be fixed with a screwdriver and a hammer.
Yup, Africa twin, mine was a 2016.Tube type tires , chain drive and no cruise control were the Big things that kept me away from the AFrica Twin. For 2020 Honda finally has cruise and tubeless options so I would be a lot more interested if I was buying today and I would also choose the automatic DCT transmission.
I've always been like that. Manual usually means mechanical. Mechanical, most of the time, can be fixed on the side of the road or "rigged" enough to get home. That being said, modern cars & bikes are far superior than their older counterparts. . . . when they're working properly.. . . . The older I get get the more I wish for my old KLR that can be fixed with a screwdriver and a hammer.
Bahahaaaa!! Some of our less, ahem, seasoned, members won't even know what that is. I don't know which would be more dangerous being hit from behind. . . . the AT or Pinto.. . . . I'd rather drive a Pinto.
I listed all the negatives above, but one thing I did like was manual mode when strafing twisties aggressively, it was really quick and seamless banging up and down through the gears even while leaned over in corners, which made it possible to ride even more aggressively. Made me feel like Rossi!One thing that is guaranteed not to make a home with me is any Honda DCT. I was loaned one last year. Rode it for a total of 160 miles over a two day period. I don't think I've ever been happier to give a bike back to the owner. I've heard people either love it or hate it. Count me among that last group of people. I'd rather drive a Pinto.
Hmmmm...I rode a 2016 Africa Twin for 30,000 km clutch...loved it! Now riding a 2018 Tenere ES. Both bikes are similar in size but the AT is better for general riding, Tenere better long distance cruiser.I listed all the negatives above, but one thing I did like was manual mode when strafing twisties aggressively, it was really quick and seamless banging up and down through the gears even while leaned over in corners, which made it possible to ride even more aggressively. Made me feel like Rossi!
I never took it to the twisties. It was so maddening just trying to ride the thing in a straight line. Blew my mind when I pulled out of the driveway and the thing was in 5th gear before I could get to 30 MPH. How much throttle response do you think you have when in 5th gear at 28 MPH?!! It only got worse from there. Man, that thing was not a good match for me.I listed all the negatives above, but one thing I did like was manual mode when strafing twisties aggressively, it was really quick and seamless banging up and down through the gears even while leaned over in corners, which made it possible to ride even more aggressively. Made me feel like Rossi!
Your bike must have been in D mode, which is what the bike starts up in. D stands for drive and is the most fuel efficient, but I called it dumb mode because it short-shifts too much and the response sucks.I never took it to the twisties. It was so maddening just trying to ride the thing in a straight line. Blew my mind when I pulled out of the driveway and the thing was in 5th gear before I could get to 30 MPH. How much throttle response do you think you have when in 5th gear at 28 MPH?!! It only got worse from there. Man, that thing was not a good match for me.