~TABASCO~ needs some tire suggestions !

SuckSqueezeBangBlow

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I really liked my Shinko 804/805 both on and off road but they kind of sucked in the rain. I put the TrailMax Missions on and really like them both on and off road, great in the rain too. Have you thought about Pirelli Scorpions?
 

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Thanks for that. I normally try for a set of 50/50 and travel across the US to the destination so I can blast some off road. I have my Tenere basically set up as a big dirt bike. I need some knobs to blast off. And then cruise home another 1000-1500 miles. All they need to do is make it home. Most of the time I still have lots of tread left and I do weekend rides and have fun on them.
If I rode the bike to work everyday I would throw on some 90-10 or 80-20 and go back to dragging pegs on the super Tenere.
That brings up an OLD post and ‘thought’. I remember when the K60 first came out, about 2011-2012. I was dragging the pegs everyday on the Tenere and taking the K60’s all the way Past the edges. NO chicken strips at all. Someone piped up and said that the K60’s are crap road tires and would never be able to carve turns, Etc.
I cracked up and posted a few pictures of my front and rear tire worn all the way past the edges. Heavily worn on the edges from dragging the pegs.
Classic case of “it’s the rider- not the tire”. I probably still have those old K60 photos. LOL.
So true - I would posit that it is "always the rider, not the tyre"

Originally the Terra came with Metzeller Saharas which suited the bike very well. The test riders did great job in getting the tyre right. It was not a high grip tyre, but that was an advantage (to me) because my bike skills are not that honed and there is no TCS/ABS safeguard. My ability required a barking dog on the lawn, a ring on the doorbell and a telegram in timescape, for me to react and the Saharas had a looooooonng and smooth transitional breakaway at the front and rear, which was absolutely necessary for confidence building.

Moving on from the Saharas, the Shinkos give slightly less communication, but better performance: kinda the next obvious rung of the ladder if you will. I am at a better standard now and, hopefully, am able to explore the expanse of the entertaining slip envelope. But I want to do so safely. Something that I can do relatively effortlessly on four, but is gradually being explored on two.

TBH though TABASCO, there is a lot to be said for a crap tyre on a shit handling vehicle (not the ST). On handling days in the UK, my company used a Toyota Corolla with some cheap, crappy tyres (I forget what brand). Corollas are not the greatest handling cars and the transformations in exploring the limit would expose a drivers' ability where the better handling cars would "mask" the faults. If you can get to predict/explore/understand the tyre traction/grip and transfer of balance between the axles in the slower transitional timeframe where the mistake is emphasised on the stopwatch, it is a great foundation for when you move to stickier tyred, better handling and faster transitions.

I will say though that outside of four wheels, most of my time I have chicken strips on two, as I have a huge amount to learn and riding in the PH has many constraints. Given the safe opportunity though......
 

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Thank you,....... The Radial is available but I would like the bias tire... The rear radial knobs are HALF the height of the bias knobs. Its a strange situation. I had a phone meeting with the Shinko @ WPS. Rocky Mountain sent me a front and rear, the front was bias the rear was radial....


Can you tell me if you received a bias set or a radial set ?
Bias!


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Hope to see your new shoes at the rally!

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Chaparral Motorsports:
I received the correct tire today.. I now have a "set"... WOW, what a total pain.. This has taken four weeks to get a set of tires and three companies. I would like to say that Chaparral Motorsports did a great job. There sales guy did a really good job. He was saying / offering email , phone / and full fallow through that I really only see in other industries. This guy "Jacob" did a really good job. And at the end of the day I got the correct tire super fast. More important to me, this guy did a great job. I told him over the phone as well the good job he had done.......

Bike Bandit:
Where do I even start? These guys SUCK ! I think they are running this business with one person on the on the phone. Each time I need to call to place the order, check on the order, wonder why the order had not shipped after they told me they had the tire, and to cancel the order, took anywhere from 25-40min wait time to get 'the guy' on the phone. And each time I spoke with this person, I think he just woke up. When I originally made the order, he said they had the tire in stock and ready to ship. Straight up, I asked several questions because I was aware that basically no one had this rear tire, he re assured me they DO.... After 7-9 it still says its in "processing"... When I called to cancel he said it was back ordered and could not give me any date or time... After being on hold for 32 min. These guys are horribly slow and disingenuous.

Appreciate everyones help ! I will have a smile burning off another set !

THANKS GUYS !


Side note for anyone reading this and considering the 804-805.... Typically a radial tire is considered a 'better' tire versus a biased type tire. (I'm sure like everything these days that is totally debatable) Typically, the radial tires are "always" more expensive that the bias type tires.... Shinko is backwards on all this stuff. The radial tires are less expensive and typically easier to get ! STRANGE.......... This is what totally threw me off, If you buy a set 804-805 radials, the knobs are much shorter than the bias tire of the same style. (radial 805 versus bias 805) I have a few ideas on maybe why, but who cares. Point being, the treaded knobs are half the height of the bias tire. Ive had really good luck with the bias type that I have always run. I also forgot to say, that the bias from Shinko are almost always more expensive than the radial, STRANGE. Obviously these are knob type tires and I travel the country, I need the rubber so I have more miles in tread. SO- with this info, just consider that you will receive HALF the tread, on the less expensive radial tires 804-805. I will probably keep ordering the bias (big / tall / thick tread 804-805) for the forcible future. It just does everything I want it to do. I have found they give me good over all mileage (I'm not one that gets my feelings hurt if I get 8K out of one set and 4K out of the next. I got way more important things to think about) I can totally carve switch backs like a mad man, I can ride these knobs all the way out to the edges and you can do it with some speed. Probably what these wont let you do at these angels is brake hard or accelerate hard under extreme lean angles. (other full on street tires will let you) But I can totally blast in the twisty stuff. Off Road- they are a chunky knob and basically will handle anything you throw at them. I do everything off road from sand, mud, rocks, rivers, creeks, up mountains, down mountains & off road high speed) they work great. (I cant wait to sell my bike one day and post here on the forum, for sale: lightly used, never off road, always garage kept, and has never been dirty. LOL ) I like off road so I want some knobs and tires are always a "give and take".... Anyone thinking about these should maybe give them a try, knowing what they can do well, and what they can't do well. If you have any 'wishful thinking' that these are going to act like a full street tire, they are not! If you want a fun 50/50 tire, these are awesome! IMOP, once I put on any type of knob, my concern for milage goes out the window, if I wanted miles I would install a popular rock hard tire that people talk all the time getting 10K+ 15K+ miles on...
 
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I love the Anakee Wilds. Feels like an incredible bike off road. Was using Anakee three‘s before that so night and day difference. I don’t like how the wilds are on the street though—they don’t hook up very well. Also after doing three days of the BDR here in Washington the back tire looks like sandpaper. But I like to goose it pretty good so who knows.


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