Super Smooth Super Tenere

[eemsreno]

Curious if the Tenere will eventually set an error code or not doing this?

I don't see how it could throw a code when if checked through the dash it is still in spec.
I've had mine like this for a lot of miles and no code.

 

[magic]

Mine is a 2013. I checked the TPS value before I started. It was set at 12, the recommended range is 9-20. When rotated counter clockwise, the value changed to lower numbers and gave the 4,500rpm idle. I then rotated it back clockwise until the idle returned to normal about 1150rpm. I went back and forth until the idle speed was not affected. I wound up with the TPS value set back at 12. Any lower value caused the idle speed to increase.

 

[Strummer]

Mine is a 2013. I checked the TPS value before I started. It was set at 12, the recommended range is 9-20. When rotated counter clockwise, the value changed to 20 and gave the 4,500rpm idle. I then rotated it back clockwise until the idle returned to normal about 1150rpm. I went back and forth until the idle speed was not affected. I wound up with the TPS value set at 14. Any higher value caused the idle speed to increase.

I know this might be off topic but I have recently bought a brand new 2020 S10 and no jerkness whatsoever...

 

[eemsreno]

Mine is a 2013. I checked the TPS value before I started. It was set at 12, the recommended range is 9-20. When rotated counter clockwise, the value changed to 20 and gave the 4,500rpm idle. I then rotated it back clockwise until the idle returned to normal about 1150rpm. I went back and forth until the idle speed was not affected. I wound up with the TPS value set at 14. Any higher value caused the idle speed to increase.

That is extremely odd because turning the TPS counter clockwise lowers the numbers.

 

[magic]

That is extremely odd because turning the TPS counter clockwise lowers the numbers.

Yes, you are correct. I got my CW and CCW mixed up when I posted. My memory is shot too. I can turn the TPS with the engine running and vary the idle speed. I will edit my previous post.

 

[ballisticexchris]

Sounds like an interesting modification. Fortunately I don't see a need for it. My Super Tenere is one of the smoothest running bikes I have ever swung a leg over. 500+ mile days in the saddle are a cinch and pain free. I would compare it to a Honda Gold Wing only the Super Tenere has just a bit smoother motor with a lot less vibration at the bars.

 

[holligl]

I have ridden plenty of bikes with flashed ECU's just not Tenere's
I'm sure getting your bikes flashed can fix a lot of problems if done correctly, I just have the hope and theory that these bikes should run correctly without spending money on them. I would put my money on that these bikes ran perfect for the Japanese engineers that designed them before the EPA hacks got ahold of them. I just strive to find out a way to get it back to how they intended for them to run.

Next time we get together (maybe AZ this winter?), you'll have to ride mine with the Anthony flash. It would be great to broaden your experience!

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[cyclemike4]

I have never like how low my bike idles and it is not consistant at all just coming off idle. Never know what kind of throttle response you will get. Most people would never even notice it i guess but i do. Been thinking about trying that to see if i could get it to idle higher. Mine was factory set at 14. Turned it down to 9 and yep 4000 rpm idle. Took it to 20 and no idle and wouldnt even start without lots of throttle. Put it back to 14 then nuged it down to 12. I will try that a while. Seems a tiny bit better but it is 45 degrees here today. It has alway ran better at 45 and lower temps.

 

[StefanOnHisS10]

I have never like how low my bike idles and it is not consistant at all just coming off idle. Never know what kind of throttle response you will get. Most people would never even notice it i guess but i do. Been thinking about trying that to see if i could get it to idle higher. Mine was factory set at 14. Turned it down to 9 and yep 4000 rpm idle. Took it to 20 and no idle and wouldnt even start without lots of throttle. Put it back to 14 then nuged it down to 12. I will try that a while. Seems a tiny bit better but it is 45 degrees here today. It has alway ran better at 45 and lower temps.

Where do you change those settings Mike? Or do you ride with a Powercommander?

stefan.

 

[gunslinger_006]

Where do you change those settings Mike? Or do you ride with a Powercommander?

stefan.

Its above in the pic i posted. You move the tps on its mounts by rotating it, which changes its notion of min and max throttle. The tft will show you the current value in diag mode.


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[StefanOnHisS10]

Thanks @gunslinger_006 , I see it now. Now and than I miss a few details due to English not being my first language. But learning a lot of additional being on this forum.

Stefan

 

[Cycledude]

Sounds like an interesting modification. Fortunately I don't see a need for it. My Super Tenere is one of the smoothest running bikes I have ever swung a leg over. 500+ mile days in the saddle are a cinch and pain free. I would compare it to a Honda Gold Wing only the Super Tenere has just a bit smoother motor with a lot less vibration at the bars.

Obviously you have never touched the handlebars on a six cylinder Goldwing while it was running.

 

[magic]

We have been discussing the throttle position sensor here. There is also another sensor on the throttle bodies. It's called the accelerator position sensor. It looks just like the TPS, but has a different part number. Anybody know what this other sensor does and what the number range should be? I wonder if there would be a combination of settings for all these sensors and maybe the CO level that would make these bikes run properly without a flash. My bike has always run great except for the off idle lag.

 

[ballisticexchris]

Obviously you have never touched the handlebars on a six cylinder Goldwing while it was running.

True that!! I figured you would get my dry humor. All joking aside I don't think there is any bike smoother or quieter than a Gold Wing. There is something to be said for a bike and rider that has over a half million miles on the clock in 18 years. I can understand why you would think the Super Tenere is not even comparable in smoothness.

 

[magic]

I have never like how low my bike idles and it is not consistant at all just coming off idle. Never know what kind of throttle response you will get. Most people would never even notice it i guess but i do. Been thinking about trying that to see if i could get it to idle higher. Mine was factory set at 14. Turned it down to 9 and yep 4000 rpm idle. Took it to 20 and no idle and wouldnt even start without lots of throttle. Put it back to 14 then nuged it down to 12. I will try that a while. Seems a tiny bit better but it is 45 degrees here today. It has alway ran better at 45 and lower temps.

That's exactly how my bike responded. I think you can have the idle speed increased with a flash. I wouldn't mind having the idle speed increased on mine either, maybe another 50-100rpm. I went for a ride today too...35 degrees F. 50 miles was all I could take. No heated grips or gear.

 

[Sierra1]

Obviously you have never touched the handlebars on a six cylinder Goldwing while it was running.

I saw that. . . . and knowing Chris. . . . he gotcha.

 

[Pdrhound]

I guess my bike is the only good running tenere out there. Never touched a thing, 55,000 miles. Runs strong at 45 mpg all day with my fat ass on it. Guess i should get my valves checked and change the air filter and spark plugs. I thought these bikes are suppose to be bullet proof?

All sarcasm aside, i think the engine braking is high on these bikes and it creates a little jerkiness if you are less that perfect with your throttle control. I thought about a flash just for that until i spent a week on steep roads. Then I appreciated the downhill control that same braking gave me. I would never want less now. It is an excellent off road tool. If i was not gonna do much off road, then i might think about it, but i seem to be doing more and more off road these days.

 

[StefanOnHisS10]

I guess my bike is the only good running tenere out there. Never touched a thing, 55,000 miles. Runs strong at 45 mpg all day with my fat ass on it. Guess i should get my valves checked and change the air filter and spark plugs. I thought these bikes are suppose to be bullet proof?

All sarcasm aside, i think the engine braking is high on these bikes and it creates a little jerkiness if you are less that perfect with your throttle control. I thought about a flash just for that until i spent a week on steep roads. Then I appreciated the downhill control that same braking gave me. I would never want less now. It is an excellent off road tool. If i was not gonna do much off road, then i might think about it, but i seem to be doing more and more off road these days.

Hear, hear!!!

 

[Sierra1]

I guess my bike is the only good running tenere out there. . . .

Nope. . . . you and I. . . . 1 & 2. I don't have the miles that you do, but I don't expect any changes to occur. Never had a Yamaha that did. The engine braking does allow/require changes to a person's riding style. . . . for the better. I wouldn't change a thing about her.

 

[Pdrhound]

I also appreciate the easy going power at 2500 rpm where i tend to be off road. Not sure I'd want it different.

Maybe you street demons need a C-14. You can still run some easy dirt roads, but that bike will smoke any BMW or KTM on the road. Zero modifications ever needed. My good friend rides one and it is a rocket ship. Makes me look like a moped at any rpm/speed.

Ok, im gonna go ride my blue unicorn.