SPEEDOMETER?

[Dogdaze]

Just to clarify, speedo error is deliberately built into the speedos. Every manufacturer does it. It's some kind of 'gentlemans agreement '. And unless you plan on doing 300k miles, at which point your car/bike is virtually worthless anyway, it really makes no difference! And starting a class action law suit is just petty! ::021::
I just ride 3-5kph over the speedo reading!

 

[gv550]

I also have a 2016 with kph speedometer, the speedo is off by 8% but the odometer is dead on with my GPS with stock tires. With Mitas E07 tires the odometer actually reads a bit low.
That Honda lawsuit came about because there was a mileage limitation on the warranty and the odometers read higher than the actual mileage travelled, Yamaha has no mileage limitation on their warranty so no point in suing them. ::021::

 

[Grumpy]

In the UK and possibly Europe, the speedo should be nothing under and no more than 7% over the indicated vehicle speed.

 

[Dogdaze]

In the UK and possibly Europe, the speedo should be nothing under and no more than 7% over the indicated vehicle speed.

Yep, the whole of the EU, must not under-read speed, but over is not an issue. Bear in mind tyre changes from OEM will also change readings.

 

[EricV]

Much ado about nothing. If it bothers you, buy a Speed-O-Healer and fix it. All the OEMS likely know the laws on this better than you do. And it's common to some degree on every platform, car or bike, from every manufacturer. Life is not fair. Wah! : Now get over it and go for a ride.

When you ride/drive with a GPS and know your actual speed more closely, you notice a lot of people driving slow that think they are going the speed limit. Welcome to life.

 

[Sierra1]

Hmmmm....I do agree with "much ado about nothing". Don't really agree that the speedo/odo error is deliberate, since I don't believe ANTHING is made perfect; I mean, we're assuming that that the GPSes are perfect. BUT, I definitely agree with


::021::

 

[gv550]

I've noticed that since I've been riding my Super Tenere that I arrive at my destinations 10 to 20 minutes early, until reading this thread I assumed it was because of the incredibly fast anniversary yellow paint, but now I'm not sure. Maybe Yamaha does some sort of time warp thing that causes time and speed to go faster, explains the 8% speedo error, and if time really is going faster then we can sue Yamaha for making our warranties expire quicker.

 

[EricV]

I've noticed that since I've been riding my Super Tenere that I arrive at my destinations 10 to 20 minutes early, until reading this thread I assumed it was because of the incredibly fast anniversary yellow paint, but now I'm not sure. Maybe Yamaha does some sort of time warp thing that causes time and speed to go faster, explains the 8% speedo error, and if time really is going faster then we can sue Yamaha for making our warranties expire quicker.

It's the paint. Only the FJR can warp time and space with a double down shift. (In the Yamaha line). The R1 is rumored to have this ability, but no one can find it, as the Go to Jail, directly to Jail, do Not Pass Go
effect happens in 1st gear, so no one's sure about the other gears.

 

[gv550]

Ya, you're right.... it's the paint. After all, look what speed blocks and yellow paint did for Kenny Roberts. ::26::

 

[Sierra1]

....Maybe Yamaha does some sort of time warp thing that causes time and speed to go faster, explains the 8% speedo error, and if time really is going faster then we can sue Yamaha for making our warranties expire quicker.

So....does that mean we're aging faster too?! Maybe it's working in reverse, because I DEFINATELY don't feel older when I ride the Tenere. ;D

 

[Grumpy]

So....does that mean we're aging faster too?! Maybe it's working in reverse, because I DEFINATELY don't feel older when I ride the Tenere. ;D

According to the theory of reletivity the faster you travel the more time slow's. So the next time you get pulled over for speeding, just say you where trying to live forever. O

 

[Boris]

Does anyone know where the speedometer is actually driven from?

I know there's a wheel speed sensor on both wheels, however I thought these were to monitor for ABS/Traction.

It's the actual speedo pick up that I'm curious about?

Ta

 

[AVGeek]

Does anyone know where the speedometer is actually driven from?

I know there's a wheel speed sensor on both wheels, however I thought these were to monitor for ABS/Traction.

It's the actual speedo pick up that I'm curious about?

Ta

The ECU calculates speed from those wheel sensors.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Indirectly from the front sensor.


Both wheel speed sensors are connected directly to the ABS ECU
The signal then goes to the engine ECU.
Then to the instrument display.


You'll get speed with the rear wire damaged, but lose it by leaving the front sensor disconnected after a tire change.

 

[Sierra1]

According to the theory of reletivity the faster you travel the more time slow's. So the next time you get pulled over for speeding, just say you where trying to live forever. O

Just tryin' to make 1.21 gigawatts.... ::26::

 

[WJBertrand]

Indirectly from the front sensor.


Both wheel speed sensors are connected directly to the ABS ECU
The signal then goes to the engine ECU.
Then to the instrument display.


You'll get speed with the rear wire damaged, but lose it by leaving the front sensor disconnected after a tire change.

When I took delivery of my 2015 ES the ABS light wouldn't go out. I turned around and took it straight back. Tech found the front ABS sensor wire was pulled completely out of the sensor, complete with dangling frayed ends. I suspect that the set up company they used failed to position the tab on the fork within the slot on the sensor plate/spacer. The plate probably rotated with the wheel, ripping out the wire. Interestingly the speedometer was still working in this condition.

 

[1954]

According to the Speedohealer website, they do not make a speedohealer for a 2016 S10. If some one has one on their bike, can you post the part#? Thanks

 

[EricV]

According to the Speedohealer website, they do not make a speedohealer for a 2016 S10. If some one has one on their bike, can you post the part#? Thanks

Probably because they did not perceive a need for one for the Gen II bikes. Call them and tell them about the kph error you have. When I installed mine on my '12, there was no plug and play version, so I would imagine you can use a generic version or they may be able to tell you what plugs would not fit your Gen II bike. I can see the power supply plug for the Gen I would not fit the Gen II, as it doesn't have that type of triangle plug, IIRC. (The heated grips have individual plugs on the Gen II.)

 

[klingklang]

I had some emails with speedohealer last year and have. Overall, they told me that they where working on something. Not only for the S10 , but for other Yam too that use the same system. The signal is the same for the speedo, ABS, and….. It is hard to isolate the speedo without affecting the others. If I remembers, none of the Yamaha with ABS was listed. The guy told me about a year. I understand it is not done yet. Maybe they've hit some liability reason too.

 

[EricV]

I had some emails with speedohealer last year and have. Overall, they told me that they where working on something. Not only for the S10 , but for other Yam too that use the same system. The signal is the same for the speedo, ABS, and….. It is hard to isolate the speedo without affecting the others. If I remembers, none of the Yamaha with ABS was listed. The guy told me about a year. I understand it is not done yet. Maybe they've hit some liability reason too.

That doesn't make sense. The '12 Super Ten has ABS, as does the FJR and they do those fine. I don't think anything changed for Gen II except the connectors on the OEM harness. You could probably just get one for the '12 bike and adapt it to the Gen II by cutting off the power connector from the HealTech system and wiring your own.