So I got rear ended on my way to work stopped at a light. Video.

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Kyle -

REALLY glad you are still here, more or less uninjured, that the bike damage appears minor, and that the guy was taken away in cuffs. In that order.

I'd strongly suggest pulling the rear swing arm to inspect the bearings and make sure there is no grinding in the pumpkin when the shaft is turned. Good idea to replace the rear wheel bearings too, then check our spoke tensions and that the wheel is not out of round.
 

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Kyle -

REALLY glad you are still here, more or less uninjured, that the bike damage appears minor, and that the guy was taken away in cuffs. In that order.

I'd strongly suggest pulling the rear swing arm to inspect the bearings and make sure there is no grinding in the pumpkin when the shaft is turned. Good idea to replace the rear wheel bearings too, then check our spoke tensions and that the wheel is not out of round.

Thanks,
Spokes sounded good, gave them all a ping. No weird noises when riding it and did spin the rear on the center stand to eyeball alignment. Did not hear anything in the shaft area.

Not a bad idea to toss new bearings at it. Just looking at prices seems its under $100 for peace of mind. Had planned on getting a new tire put on next week as it was about time anyway so Ill wait till the bearings can get here. Will have the guy toss it on his truing stand real quick too.
 

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First, glad you’re not seriously injured. Second, if you carry uninsured coverage and the other driver is at fault (clearly the case here) your policy should cover the repairs. Not sure if the deductible waiver applies if the other party is uninsured though.


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I'm surprised to hear that the UK is that lenient on the bad guys. I thought that was our reputation. (The rights of the accused outweighing the rights of the victim , and all) I was also surprised to learn that Britain has a Lady Justice statue also. I know states vary when it comes to insurance requirements, D.U.I.s and their respective punishment(s). I've heard that CA can impound a vehicle for no insurance, and keep it until there is coverage. I've also heard that they have huge lots filled with impounded cars. In TX, cities can impound for no insurance, but they can not hold them. Which means that a person can follow the tow truck back to the lot, pay the tow bill, and drive their still uninsured car off of the lot. In TX, two no insurance tickets get your license suspended. It used to be that if you were stopped, and you were suspended, you went to jail. Now it's just a ticket, due to jail overcrowding. Furthermore, due to the overcrowding, many cities are not arresting for out-of-town citation warrants. Which means people are not keeping insurance, not taking care of their citations, and the cops can not do anything about it. Which leads to situations like stutrump has seen. It's way past frustrating, it's maddening.
 
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Glad you're ok. DUI driver is probably a repeat offender. That's likely why he didn't have license and ins to begin with. With some luck he won't be able to post bail and will get to spend some time thinking about what he did and how it's impacted his life.
 

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Kyle,
Glad you are OK.
Bike will be fixed...........douchebag will hopefully off-himself at some point before he injures or kills someone else. (sorry, my thoughts on DUI offenders)
You will be back riding in no time!
 

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I'm surprised to hear that the UK is that lenient on the bad guys. I thought that was our reputation. I was also surprised to learn that Britain has a Lady Justice statue also. (The rights of the accused outweighing the rights of the victim , and all) I know states vary when it comes to insurance requirements, D.U.I.s and their respective punishment(s). I've heard that CA can impound a vehicle for no insurance, and keep it until there is coverage. I've also heard that they have huge lots filled with impounded cars. In TX, cities can impound for no insurance, but they can not hold them. Which means that a person can follow the tow truck back to the lot, pay the tow bill, and drive their still uninsured car off of the lot. In TX, two no insurance tickets get your license suspended. It used to be that if you were stopped, and you were suspended, you went to jail. Now it's just a ticket, due to jail overcrowding. Furthermore, due to the overcrowding, many cities are not arresting for out-of-town citation warrants. Which means people are not keeping insurance, not taking care of their citations, and the cops can not do anything about it. Which leads to situations like stutrump has seen. It's way past frustrating, it's maddening.
In Texas your car gets towed for no insurance only when you’re arrested! I don’t know of any cities who tow their own cars so the car is towed to the private wreckers storage lot. If you are just ticketed the car doesn’t get towed unless you leave it in a lane of traffic where it becomes a traffic hazard or on private property where the owner could have it towed. Also, the tow operator must see proof of insurance and ownership before releasing the car from the tow lot.
 

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First, glad you’re not seriously injured. Second, if you carry uninsured coverage and the other driver is at fault (clearly the case here) your policy should cover the repairs. Not sure if the deductible waiver applies if the other party is uninsured though.


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Thanks!
Unfortunately I don't have uninsured or collision. I do carry uninsured for the medical side, and comp for theft. Horse out of the barn and all that, but will probably add it when the policy renews at the end of the month.
 

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Kyle,
Glad you are OK.
Bike will be fixed...........douchebag will hopefully off-himself at some point before he injures or kills someone else. (sorry, my thoughts on DUI offenders)
You will be back riding in no time!
Thank you, after spending 2 hours waiting for the NHP to do their thing, DUI investigations take forever. I hopped on and rode the 20 miles to work, rode home this AM and just went and did a freeway run to check for vibrations.

I feel very slight vibe in the bars. But its a combo of a few things I think. #1 Im being hyper aware. #2 I JUST took off my hand guards and windshield wings for the first time as its 100 deg and summer now. So think I am just having a bit different air flow. Its tracking straight, no weirdness in high speed corners leaned over. No weirdness in low speed braking in turns. So think I got off real lucky in terms of any major stuff. It seems all cosmetic.
 

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In Texas your car gets towed for no insurance only when you’re arrested! I don’t know of any cities who tow their own cars so the car is towed to the private wreckers storage lot. If you are just ticketed the car doesn’t get towed unless you leave it in a lane of traffic where it becomes a traffic hazard or on private property where the owner could have it towed. Also, the tow operator must see proof of insurance and ownership before releasing the car from the tow lot.
Partially correct. . . . Many cities have policies that allow for the vehicle to be towed for no insurance. (being arrested, and having no insurance does not necessarily go hand-in-hand) Many officers do not tow for no insurance because it doesn't keep the car off of the road. In addition, the towing company does not have the legal authority to keep a car for no insurance; they do require proof of ownership, as is legally allowed. Cops aren't towing the cars so the two companies can make money. Maybe the uninsured will take the money that they would have had to use to get their car back. . . . and use it to get insurance. (well, we can always dream) But, yes, if a vehicle is a traffic hazard it can be towed by LE. If the vehicle is on private property, the legal property owner can have it towed. That being said, many reputable tow companies will not immediately tow from private property. Too much liability, or law suits I'm guessing.
 

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Thanks!
Unfortunately I don't have uninsured or collision. I do carry uninsured for the medical side, and comp for theft. Horse out of the barn and all that, but will probably add it when the policy renews at the end of the month.
Still, ask your insurance company, they may still cover it under collision, with no fault assigned to you.


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Thanks! Here in NV they at least will pop him on the DUI heavy. I actually witnessed one 3 years ago and pulled him out of the vehicle, cops never saw him drive, so had to sit through court on it while they held 10-15 cases before his. Everyone got hit for $2000 on the first offense, + the mandated MADD school and DUI school $500. Then assessed the $1000 to reinstate their lic with the DMV. These were a mix of people using PD and paid lawyer, struck me funny that it all ended the same. Wheres Saul Goodman when you need him? I know our DMV is very strict on the fines for reinstatement, as you said it probably wont matter as he didn't have a lic in the first place.

Funny about the flashers, NHP uses them, but they have gone to those ultra small super bright LED bars. They must have a power setting on them as Ive seen them go from obnoxious to just a little output when they go from the run down to the pulled over on the rear facing. How did your accident turn out? Okay I hope.
I was fine, thanks. Just a lot of paperwork added. Gubberment runs on paperwork.

Just to add, the ping test is nice, but no where near as good as checking the torque on them. I have done the ping test, and although it sounded good, found a couple out of torque. And it takes just a couple of minutes longer.

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Kyle,
Glad to read that you are OK!
Hopefully you will get your scoot back to the way it was and safely good to go.
Here is to the NV legal books in full being thrown at the ramrod that hit you.
 

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I was fine, thanks. Just a lot of paperwork added. Gubberment runs on paperwork.

Just to add, the ping test is nice, but no where near as good as checking the torque on them. I have done the ping test, and although it sounded good, found a couple out of torque. And it takes just a couple of minutes longer.

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Planning on new rubber and letting my guy run it on his truing stand late next week whenever the new wheel bearings get here. You know I do have a gunsmith small inch pound wrench that would go high enough to use on the spokes so I could bodge something together to make that work. Wouldn't take any time I guess, best check them tomorrow.
 

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Planning on new rubber and letting my guy run it on his truing stand late next week whenever the new wheel bearings get here. You know I do have a gunsmith small inch pound wrench that would go high enough to use on the spokes so I could bodge something together to make that work. Wouldn't take any time I guess, best check them tomorrow.
You can get a 5 mm hex 12" extension socket at Lowe's for around $7. That is what I use, and makes it really easy.
 

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Kyle! Man! So sorry! watched that video in horror! SOOOO glad you are alive and talking!!! Have you bike checked out, completely! I will be more vigilant at stop lights from now on myself!!!
And me too! Kyle's video is very sobering.
Thanks.

Im 99% of the time, in gear hand on throttle checking mirrors ready to squirt if needed until there is a decent cushion of a few cars behind me to soak up the blows. I normally wont even switch to N at lights unless I know I'm at a long one and want to adjust something.

I just got caught slipping... This is the first light from my house, I get on the freeway right there its a quick light, and I had forgot to switch over to podcast for the ride to work, so "needed" to do it now and quick because how short the light is. You can see as soon as I heard the screech my hand went to throttle, I was in gear, but my reaction time just wasn't where it could have been if my mind would have been on riding not music.

Not beating myself up over it, I went back to where it happened in the daylight to look at the skid marks. Just really don't think I would have had the chance now looking at how short they were (about 3/4 car length) even if I was paying attention. As bright as his lights were, I would have just assumed he was further back or something looking in the mirror. Never know, but I doubt you'll find me messing with the phone or GPS again at a light.
 
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Good comments Kyle. Every single one of us has a moment of "slipping up". I even knock my bike out of gear at stops from time to time to shake off the numbness in my hands. It's a bad habit I have for sure. I'm just so very grateful that you spoke up and shared this as a reminder just how dangerous 2 wheels can be. We are just so damn exposed.
 

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Good comments Kyle. Every single one of us has a moment of "slipping up". I even knock my bike out of gear at stops from time to time to shake off the numbness in my hands. It's a bad habit I have for sure. I'm just so very grateful that you spoke up and shared this as a reminder just how dangerous 2 wheels can be. We are just so damn exposed.
I wish there was some way to get reliable stats on just how dangerous it is. Like filter out anyone below 35 and has not been on 2 for X number of miles. I bet the dangerous percentages would drop like a rock.

Guys that ride a lot realize the 3000 pound metal cage wins every single time over a 200 pound squishy meat sack, and no matter how in the right you are it hurts to fall down.

Like this is one of my favorite videos. The guy that does the loop here had been driving like an ass for 2 exits. So I was giving him plenty of room and watching him. When I get up on the SUV in the right lane, I back off knowing I can't make the pass so giving him room incase. New rider would have rode in the blind spot. As soon as it happened I was in my mirror to see what the guy behind me was going to do and judge how fast I could slow and not get tagged from behind and also to know if I could cut over giving the Toyota truck more room or if the car behind me was going to make that move New 20 something rider? They are going to grab a fist full of front and pray. lol

 
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