Shout out to Tabasco!

Eville Rich

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I'm posting this to share my experience with recent maintenance done by Tabasco, aka Jaxon. A rather well known forum member, located in Texas, USA.

In mid-November I trailered my S10 from WI down to Texas. It was a long haul, but my S10 was due for at least a valve check (28k miles). I'd finished up a trip to Colorado and back for work and bit of fun, and she was not in the best of shape. Both Jaxon and I laughed about the state of the tires - totally worn out Pirelli Scorpion Trail II. I'm getting those replaced now with the same. They gave the last of their tread to that Colorado trip and were done at a bit over 10k miles.

Anyway, I reached out to Tabasco and he was generous enough to get through the long laundry list of things that I could/should do with the bike. In the end, I asked him for the following:
1) Valve check and adjustment if needed,
2) Check the steering bearings and lube, plus drain/fill the oil,
3) Install a manual CCT (per his recommendation, while we're in there),
4) Install a Barnett clutch pressure plate (also recommended, while we're in there),
5) Replace the spark plugs with NGK platinums,
6) Change oil/filter after and replace the air filter.

I dropped the bike off along with all the parts. A good long discussion about maintenance. I still have more to do, let's leave it at that. I went off for a week to Arizona for a work thing. I stored the trailer at a nearby u-haul that rented secured parking (a modest additional expense related to my logistics).

I have to give big props to Jaxon - he said he's provide documentation along the way. I got regular text updates with every service status. That included the status of the valves, several of which were out of spec. I asked him to proceed with the valve adjustment, which is not a casual job. I'm not going to into details about my air filter, but let's just say it was not OK. And my valves had some carbon build-up, likely due to not running it hard enough or being diligent about Sea Foam. I have some room for improvement in my day-to-day and other maintenance.

I returned to Texas after my work thing and found my bike in better-than-new condition. Not only did all the work get done, but he also adjusted my throttle bodies. And the bike was sparkling shiny - clean across everything. I learned something about SC2 and have ordered some to use on other bikes in my fleet. Also that I have a scratch and possible crack in my right footstand mount, which I'd been unaware of, possible due to the build-up of dirt/dust (I'm looking into that). He generously went over a few things and gave me guidance for doing my own future maintenance.

My major goal was really just the valve work. I've got limited confidence in my local dealer and I really wanted to make sure things got done right. The added bonus was the wealth of information and advice, along with a deep look at the bike and its condition. How does it run now? Better than it ever has. I'm not exaggerating. Even from new, it never felt quite like it "wanted" to pull much beyond 6k (it would, just not like it wanted to). In my short test ride, it felt smoother across the RPM range and quite happy to get to 7k+. The Barnett pressure plate really did improve the feel of the clutch, and also how the clutch engaged with the engine - the original OEM pressure plate showed some signs of wear and it would often give me some "chatter" feeling at lower RPM, along with an occasional lag feeling in engagement. Jaxon's advice was spot-on and not something I would have done otherwise.

I've also got a ton of documentation on all the work, courtesy of Jaxon. He said he would as part of his standard practice and he delivered. Everything to get a picture got one. Except the cleaning - that was a pleasant surprise. I knew that going to Jaxon was about receiving a premium service and he really delivered that. Far beyond anything I've experienced at dealerships or other independent shops. With valve checks at long intervals, the long drive down to Texas was an effort, but also not something that needs to happen a lot. I'd do it again.

I've got more work to-do on my own. Tires are first. Then the foot peg issue and brake bleeding. I need to lube my swingarm bearing and driveshaft, and get ready to replace my rear brake pads. He could have done all that, but I need to have my own fun and excuses for digging into the forum and FSM.

Anyway, I hope this is useful for someone considering whether to avail themselves of Tabasco's services. He did a great job. Oh yeah, he's also a really nice guy, evidenced by his putting up with my foolishness.

Cheers,
Eville Rich
2016 S10
 

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I appreciate the opportunity to do a bit of service.. Thank you
 

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Can I ask where in Texas you are based? My valves will need doing next year, I was going to do it myself, but iam getting lazy and my go for the Tabasco option!! I am near Dallas.
cheers Gary
 

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Can I ask where in Texas you are based? My valves will need doing next year, I was going to do it myself, but iam getting lazy and my go for the Tabasco option!! I am near Dallas.
cheers Gary
He's close to us. Ft. Worth area.
 

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Can I ask where in Texas you are based? My valves will need doing next year, I was going to do it myself, but iam getting lazy and my go for the Tabasco option!! I am near Dallas.
cheers Gary
North Ft Worth. No problem, let me know. Thanks
 

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who does your work fella

rob
I'm about mid 20k miles. I do oil changes. Brakes are still good but getting close. My local dealer, Burleson Power Sports, does my tires changes. Haven't had the need for anything else. I'll see about their thoughts on doing valves. Depending on that answer will depend on who does them.
 

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I'm about mid 20k miles. I do oil changes. Brakes are still good but getting close. My local dealer, Burleson Power Sports, does my tires changes. Haven't had the need for anything else. I'll see about their thoughts on doing valves. Depending on that answer will depend on who does them.
It doesn't matter what their thoughts are, you should have them checked. I see too many people say things like "my bike runs perfect, so no reason to do it" or "it doesn't make any noise, so they are probably good".
I'm sure Tabasco can chime in here, but I have seen most of the bikes I open up need some adjustment. Delaying getting the valves into spec will lead to more problems.
 

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It doesn't matter what their thoughts are, you should have them checked. . . .
Agreed. What I meant is seeing how comfortable they are with doing valves. I don't foresee any issue, but if they hem & haw about looking at them . . . . Jaxon it is.
 

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Agreed. What I meant is seeing how comfortable they are with doing valves. I don't foresee any issue, but if they hem & haw about looking at them . . . . Jaxon it is.
Got ya. I don't understand why any place that is running a Yamaha service center would have any issues with it. This bike isn't anything special. The cam chain tensioner is a bit different than many/most motorcycles but other than that it's not overly complicated or requires any specific manufacturers tools. Good luck, at least you have a known good technician close to you!
 

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Agreed. What I meant is seeing how comfortable they are with doing valves. I don't foresee any issue, but if they hem & haw about looking at them . . . . Jaxon it is.

They will do the work, no doubt ! The person answering the phone about your valve check, is not the "mechanic" doing the valve check.......... LOL I could probably write a short book about all my stories I have about shops, service, and what Ive seen over the years. Unfortunately, you have all types of mechanics in this world, (probably like many professions) some that don't give a crap and just go through the motions, and others that are OCD and will check things back and forth 14 times. You just never know what you're going to get.


For anyone reading this, 20-30 years ago you could go back in a shop and talk with the actual mechanics. You could get a real feel for who might be working on your machine. In the commercial shops today, it's very rare they will let you back to talk with those guys. And many mechanics these days don't "typically" like to talk or deal with the public. So this sets up a situation where you're talking with a service writer that has a personality and is typically good talking with people. But this is NOT the guy working on your machine. If you have detailed questions, "most" of the time this service writer has no idea anything thing about the machine. Or any details about YOUR bike. If you have, or find a small independent shop you can still sometimes talk with the mechanic and get a feeling for the service you're wanting to pay for. If you have the opportunity, 'interview' the mechanic and then take a look around their shop.

As always, if anyone has questions or needs advice before heading into your local service/dealer to get work done, just let me know. I'll be happy to tell, teach, explain, advise or just give my opinion.............

Anyhow, Ive seen a lot of BS in 40 + years.
 

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Agreed. What I meant is seeing how comfortable they are with doing valves. I don't foresee any issue, but if they hem & haw about looking at them . . . . Jaxon it is.
That's where I am less comfortable with my local dealership. I do the basic stuff myself and they'd be fine with that. But I had a service writer tell me at one point "we don't normally recommend flushing the brake fluid." And when I went in for my brake switch recall, I helped the mechanic trace the wires and work through the details. Not that the mechanic was a bad mechanic - he was a graybeard and does know bikes - but he had no familiarity with the S10 and expressed surprise at anyone having brake switch issues (which I did have).

Testing a dealership's responses to basic questions you know the answer to is a great way to get a feel for their attitude and experience.

Eville Rich
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. . . .For anyone reading this, 20-30 years ago you could go back in a shop and talk with the actual mechanics. You could get a real feel for who might be working on your machine. In the commercial shops today, it's very rare they will let you back to talk with those guys. And many mechanics these days don't "typically" like to talk or deal with the public. . . .
Fortunately, the shop I use is still that way. They even let me use their tools, in their shop, when I was installing my locks into the Yamaha boxes. Phill and Dallas have been there a long time, with Phill being the lead tech. There's been more than a few times we've sat and talked about some of the boo-boos that come in, and what they want.

I plan on just stopping by and talking to him about the valves. Like I said, I don't expect any issues, but on the off chance he tells me that valves are the one thing he doesn't do. . . . I know who I'm calling.
 
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