Goela
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Hi, the throttle om my 2014 1200 is very sensitive from the idle position, is there a way to make it less sensitive where you need to turn it a bit further for same response, thank you.
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Longdog Cymru
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Which mode are you in? S Mode will give a sharper response than T Mode which gives a gentler, more progressive feel. I am guessing that you know that you can only change modes when the throttle is closed?
EricV
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Welcome to the forum. What bike are you coming from? Please take a moment to put your location in your profile. It gives context to your posts and makes it easier for others to answer questions if you have them. There are some differences between EU and US bikes, for example.
If this is your first Throttle by Wire bike, it will take a bit to adjust to the throttle. Throttle by wire bikes are, in general, much more sensitive to input than EFi or carburetor bikes. Most people get used to it. There are products you can purchase if you refuse to adjust to it yourself. G2 Throttle tamer is one of those.
If this is your first Throttle by Wire bike, it will take a bit to adjust to the throttle. Throttle by wire bikes are, in general, much more sensitive to input than EFi or carburetor bikes. Most people get used to it. There are products you can purchase if you refuse to adjust to it yourself. G2 Throttle tamer is one of those.
Tenman
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A reflash did all the good for me. Took care of the killer engine braking too
JamesGang
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I managed to retrain my wrist to deal with the throttle response and I find the 'engine braking' so useful I wouldn't want to be with out it.
Tenman
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In technical 1st gear stuff is where the braking was rough on me. I could be standing and roll off the throttle and damn near crash sometimes. Pivot pegs makes it worse. If you haven't ridden a flashed one. You're missing something good.
Clawdog60
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Took quite a bit of riding time for me to get comfortable with it. After this winter I’ll have to relearn again.
Goela
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Hi, thanks for the response, I only use T mode, once I get used to the bike I'll try S. Regards.
Goela
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Hi, I've updated my profile, had a 84 BMW R100 for 25 years, then a XT660 for a year. I'll google the G2 throttle tamer, sounds like the answer for me, thank you. Regards.
My 2012 was much too jumpy until I implemented the trivial clutch fuse-jumper mod. I've had the fuse stuffed into the clutch switch for 5 years and it has been great. (Now the thread about that seems to be missing?)
Commuter Boy
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I picked up a G2, but ended up getting a flash on my Gen 2 before installing it. Didn't bother, the flash made such a difference in driveability.
Still in the package at home, I need to flog that here someday.
Still in the package at home, I need to flog that here someday.
Goela
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Hi, what is a flash on the Gen 2 ?
Also, make sure there isn’t too much or too little slack in the throttle cable adjustment. Both can make it feel twitchy.
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EricV
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Consider that you are making a massive jump in technology. It will take you a little bit to adjust to it. Give yourself that time before tossing money at this issue.
Carb bikes were like monkeys throwing gas down a hole. Throttle movement had a delayed effect. EFI bikes sharpened that up significantly and improved throttle response, requiring a more refined movement of the throttle. You skipped right past that and went strait to a Throttle By Wire bike which removed all the delays and now your throttle movements are directly impacting the ECU's delivery of fuel at the injectors. That's a huge jump. TBW requires a much more refined throttle movement for smooth changes in throttle, especially at low RPMs. You will adjust to it over time, it just takes a little riding. Many S10 owners, when they get used to the throttle and train their wrists, never use T mode at all, because it's too laggy compared to S mode.
Or put another way, you've been cooking with coal and you just brought home a nuclear reactor. There will be some adjustments to your methods.
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Cycledude
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The jerky S10 throttle has been one of the biggest complaints on this board, many folks claim to adapt to it but in my opinion it’s just something the Yamaha engineers so far have chosen to overlook .
One thing I have recently noticed riding my Tenere in cold weather like in the 30’s Fahrenheit the jerky throttle seems to have completely disappeared , in hot weather it was very noticeable. Most folks that have had a Re Flash done claim the jerky throttle issue completely disappeared.
Maybe if lots of folks keep complaining about the jerky throttle Yamaha will eventually be motivated enough to actually do something about it.
One thing I have recently noticed riding my Tenere in cold weather like in the 30’s Fahrenheit the jerky throttle seems to have completely disappeared , in hot weather it was very noticeable. Most folks that have had a Re Flash done claim the jerky throttle issue completely disappeared.
Maybe if lots of folks keep complaining about the jerky throttle Yamaha will eventually be motivated enough to actually do something about it.
Commuter Boy
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It's a remapping of the fuel/air mixture at different throttle settings. The goal is to smooth out throttle response, sharpen performance, and sometimes even increase fuel economy. Usually at the expense of some extra emissions.
RCinNC
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I don't think it's simply a claim; I don't speak for everyone, but I adapted just fine to the throttle by wire response after riding the S10 for a little while. I came to the S10 from a carbureted Harley Road King via a 650 V-Strom, so the throttle response on the Yamaha felt like a hand grenade going off when I first started riding it. I didn't even use the Sport mode at first, because it felt so jerky. Gradually I eased into it, and now it feels perfectly normal, to the point that Touring mode feels slow and unresponsive.