Cycledude
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there are plenty of smaller bikes that have no problem hauling 2 people
S10 Discontinued?
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Dirt_Dad
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CW is correct. Nobody knows but Yamaha what will happen.
I loved all 4 of my Teneres, but 8 year old technology looks pretty out of date in today's Adventure market. It can probably linger around as a great lower price alternative to a modern bike.
Considering even Harley has a dramatically more advanced bike than Yamaha, you have say Yamaha does not see much value to investing in the big bike Adv market. Their interest are elsewhere.
I loved all 4 of my Teneres, but 8 year old technology looks pretty out of date in today's Adventure market. It can probably linger around as a great lower price alternative to a modern bike.
Considering even Harley has a dramatically more advanced bike than Yamaha, you have say Yamaha does not see much value to investing in the big bike Adv market. Their interest are elsewhere.
lund
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Explain what a "more" modern advanced bike would look like. Is that a loaded infested bike with electronics like KTM and BMW? Does an adventure bike really need it or is it for ones pleasure. A true world crosser is simple. Having navigational systems and rider assist doesn't make a great adventure bike but its more reason to spend time at a dealer having things repaired instead of putting in seat time riding into an adventure.
BTW, anyone relying on an on board GPS you find on certain models and doesn't carry an alternative like Garmin handheld is asking for trouble.
Your navigational system should always be separate from the bike, its a sells trap to the real deal and many fall for it.
To me that's exactly where's she at, and exactly what I need/want. Best bang for the buck,
Bikes are like cars. Everybody wants/needs more tech in their car/truck. Todays trucks are more luxury car, than yesterday's trucks. . . . or even yesterday's luxury cars. I was always told not to get the "built in" navigation. That it would need frequent updates, and it was easier/cheaper to update to update separate nav systems.
tntmo
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Anyone who relies on electronic navigation only needs to rethink their adventure riding!
Anyway, as a few people have posted, the market is pushing towards more electronics and technology. While there are some people who don't want it, the majority of people spending money at the dealership obviously do. BMW sells all of their fancy GS bikes, HD can't produce enough PA bikes, etc. Yamaha has the T7 out there for people who want a little bit less electronic intrusion in their riding experience.
I think the Super Tenere still has a market and obviously most of us on this forum believe in the old gal, but it's not going to be at the forefront of the tech game until Big Yam steps up and does a revision on it. In the meantime, I'm going to keep riding mine.
Anyway, as a few people have posted, the market is pushing towards more electronics and technology. While there are some people who don't want it, the majority of people spending money at the dealership obviously do. BMW sells all of their fancy GS bikes, HD can't produce enough PA bikes, etc. Yamaha has the T7 out there for people who want a little bit less electronic intrusion in their riding experience.
I think the Super Tenere still has a market and obviously most of us on this forum believe in the old gal, but it's not going to be at the forefront of the tech game until Big Yam steps up and does a revision on it. In the meantime, I'm going to keep riding mine.
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No argument from me. If I wanted to ride around the world I'd probably go back to my old DR650. Of course that has nothing to do with why I ride a big adventure bike and what I want it to do.
I hope the Super Tenere lives on a long time and continues to find a market. It's a truly great bike, but shaft drive alone is not enough to get me to spend money on a big bike. Bikes cost a lot of money and the advancements are worth the extra cost to me. Even when I weigh out the disadvantage of a chain...still worth it.
Anyone who relies on the KTM onboard GPS is going to be really annoyed they sprung for the $8 to buy it. It's overpriced by $7.98.
MileageMonster
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S10, discontinued, will not return. No problem, got one that I will not part with.
No Bavarian Money Waste or any other fancy computergame on two wheels.
Just pure XT1200 fun. Never misses a beat, rides like a dream, does what it does.
That’s a beauty, or what?!…
No Bavarian Money Waste or any other fancy computergame on two wheels.
Just pure XT1200 fun. Never misses a beat, rides like a dream, does what it does.
That’s a beauty, or what?!…
thughes317
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Maybe they'll pull a page from the Kawasaki playbook and "KLR" it? 
I wouldn't be surprised if Yamaha discontinues with ST12 ... after all, it is not their top seller and the bike has been around relatively unchanged since ST12 started. I wouldn't mind a 'pumped' ST7, maybe in the 800~1000cc/min 90~100bhp as long as they provide generous fuel capacity and range like that of ST12, but 100lbs lighter. All adventure bikes are getting waaaay too heavy, powerful, complicated & pricey for many 'average joe' on the market. I'd like to see "simpler" bikes with minimum electrickery on the bike and make it optional (like KTM does) to add other electronic functions if the buyer wishes. Obviously TC/ABS definitely should be standard, but also maybe make CC standard on all bikes & have a single fuel map instead of 4 or 5 fuel map options as they do many bikes. I mean seriously, I'd say less just 1/2 of us here use "T" mode on the ST12 after we 'adapt' to jerky on/off throttle response. Most of us has probably opted to reflash the ECU to minimize rough throttle action which made it easier for to use the "S" mode all most all the time. I think UJM mfg have noticed that lots of people are hopping on to smaller, lighter, less electrickery laden bikes at lower price. So, after all these years of producing the ST12 models, Yamaha ST12 factories have fully vested their investment in the model to be able to make a change real soon.
I don't know about that. For the most part, the market follows what people want. Us old farts might not want all the "electrickery", but the following generations demand it. Look at cars/trucks. . . . and cell phones. More, and more features every year. Can't help but think bikes are the same. (my Jeep, base model, could not be ordered without A/C, cruise, and stereo controls in the steering wheel)
I'm curious what comes next, but not real interested in purchasing it.
I'm curious what comes next, but not real interested in purchasing it.
McJeep
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YUp, have an 06 sierra loaded to the teeth (seriously, the rarity button when i searched the vin? mine and 6 others were as kitted out that year lol) - I'm scared shytless for when the servos etc start to go on it - I also own a 77 chevy shaggin wagon that may end up getting an LS swap if/when the sierra starts to cause problems
Have driven a lot of jeeps over the years and love em - If only I culd find my 03 rubicon I would buy it backas for the blue ox? (my 17 tenere) - probably my last bike - no need to have the latest greatest here
whisperquiet
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I bought a new 2021 S10 ES because of the rumored demise.
cycledelic relic
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KLR..KLR..KLR......KLR..KLR
1984-?
& the Ten is only 10....lets make it 20
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1984-?
& the Ten is only 10....lets make it 20
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whisperquiet
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I owned 9 different KLRs over a 25 year timeframe…..now have owned 5 different S10s in ten years. I tend to ride what works for me and fits me.
Eville Rich
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From an email I just got from Yamaha "the rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated." I see that Yamaha is offering a 2022 ES version of the S10. Looks about the same as 2021.
I feel like I'm still in the "getting to know you, but I like hanging out" phase of my 2016 model.
Eville Rich
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I feel like I'm still in the "getting to know you, but I like hanging out" phase of my 2016 model.
Eville Rich
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The FJR passed 20 years this year and has the same annual rumors of being discontinued.
We would have to look at the other half of the glass half full. What if the S10 had never existed, and was presented this year, as it is, as a novelty in 2022 ... would we be candidates to buy it? ... would we perceive it as an "old" design? ... its lack of gadgets / electronics would be decisive for consider it "from another era"?
I think that it is still in force and that it is still competitive
I think that it is still in force and that it is still competitive