I know this bike is a big tall machine. Now coming from my Vee in the twisties I can scrap peg and get a into a low turn angle. Does any one know how low of a turn angle you can get on the Super Tenere?
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Thank you, I was hoping someone from the other side of the pond could answer. Can't wait for the bike to get here.
Hi and welcome, I got to ride a Super Ten for over an hour and my main use will be on road, I was impressed with the way it handled in the twisties and found in very responsive for such a large machine. I'm buying one so it gets my vote.
of course i haven't ridden it yet, but i will throw in my opinion. Just like the DL1000 VSTrom I just owned it could be thrown into a corner alot harder and quicker than my Honda ST1300. I would think that the Super Ten will have the same overall characteristics as the STrom. For most, it will be a matter of skill, rather than what the bike can handle. There are guys out there that have a hard time trusting a bike to be leaned over even to 45 degrees, let alone anything past that. It is like sport bike riders, most of them can't even tear up a canyon road without going left of center to properly negotiate a curve for the speeds they are going. Hmm interesting!!!
Thats all for now!!!!
Thats all for now!!!!
Hi there................ I had a Honda Varadero before the S10. Sometimes I get some hooligan manners when on a bike and one day me and a couple of friends were doing some mountain passes. Two of them have BMW RT 1200'S. At the end of the day they had to accept that I beat them in the twisties with the Varadero.
After riding the same mountain passes with the S10, I must admit that I feel more comfortable and is a bit quicker than with the Varadero. There were no chicken strips left on the Tourance EXP's at the end of the day.
I think the tyres will decide how low the turning angle of the S10 will be.
After riding the same mountain passes with the S10, I must admit that I feel more comfortable and is a bit quicker than with the Varadero. There were no chicken strips left on the Tourance EXP's at the end of the day.
I think the tyres will decide how low the turning angle of the S10 will be.
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Uncle F said:Hi there................ I had a Honda Varadero before the S10. Sometimes I get some hooligan manners when on a bike and one day me and a couple of friends were doing some mountain passes. Two of them have BMW RT 1200'S. At the end of the day they had to accept that I beat them in the twisties with the Varadero.
After riding the same mountain passes with the S10, I must admit that I feel more comfortable and is a bit quicker than with the Varadero. There were no chicken strips left on the Tourance EXP's at the end of the day.
I think the tyres will decide how low the turning angle of the S10 will be.
Good question - good answer, Uncle -
I too was wondering how it would do - I've ridden several GS/GSA's in the tight stuff and loved every minute of it.
The new GS was on my short list - but this new Yam is bringing the GS & - all it's final drive problems & general lack of listening to customers - to its knees...
I for one cannot wait to see it carve into BMW sales. I tasted that kool-aid...drank it for around 10 years off/n/on
I now have a taste for the Rising Sun. It will taste very VERY good, me thinks.
Good comments hannab.......it will be interesting to see how the S10 offering changes the game for BMW.hANNAbONE said:Uncle F said:Hi there................ I had a Honda Varadero before the S10. Sometimes I get some hooligan manners when on a bike and one day me and a couple of friends were doing some mountain passes. Two of them have BMW RT 1200'S. At the end of the day they had to accept that I beat them in the twisties with the Varadero.
After riding the same mountain passes with the S10, I must admit that I feel more comfortable and is a bit quicker than with the Varadero. There were no chicken strips left on the Tourance EXP's at the end of the day.
I think the tyres will decide how low the turning angle of the S10 will be.
Good question - good answer, Uncle -
I too was wondering how it would do - I've ridden several GS/GSA's in the tight stuff and loved every minute of it.
The new GS was on my short list - but this new Yam is bringing the GS & - all it's final drive problems & general lack of listening to customers - to its knees...
I for one cannot wait to see it carve into BMW sales. I tasted that kool-aid...drank it for around 10 years off/n/on
I now have a taste for the Rising Sun. It will taste very VERY good, me thinks.
I know what you talking about leaning. I've warn down the peg tabs on both sides of my DL1000. I enjoy leaning it hard into a turn and cracking the throttle as I leave the turn with the front tire starting to lift. What a feeling to have that power under you for the road and then be able to hit the dirt and not worry too much. I just hope the Tenere will feel the same. I was using the same tire set up on the VEe too.HoebSTer said:
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This bike is very agile ... the tyres are a limiting factor but you can get her right over ..... not sure if you could ground her through a corner on the road. I ride motocross style and have had it very sideways with my leg out and forward (on the dirt). The hero blob (singular) and rests were covered in mud and may well have touched down .... but I don't think so.
I'm hoping and betting that it will do just fine. I think hoebSTer nailed it. Most bikes now days are good enough that it's all about who's sitting on the seat.
i first learned it was about the rider and not the bike when out riding my st1100. We would be in the smokey mountains and come up on some guys riding the sport bikes. We would go past them enjoying our day. One time we were at an ST Owners weekend event out riding, when myself and another rider came up on a few other ST riders out for the day. We rode right past them, passing them in a respectful fashion and continuing on our way. When we get back to dinner, we came across the two guys we passed, and the one said we busted their bubble when passing them. They thought they had been riding pretty fast and smooth, then we came up to them and shoot that all to hell for them. It was always fun riding well on the Honda ST1100's and 1300's.
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Well, we can STill ride WITH them!!!! 8)HoebSTer said:
I recently read an interesting response to a similar thread at another website. The poster said as your riding skill improves, you should be leaning over less not more. Don't know if that's true or not, I thought I'd just throw that out there.
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You are correct!!! The better a person can understand and practice the "Correct" Path Of Travel, the smoother and faster he/she can be negotiating a curve. If you can maximize the outside (entering a curve), inside (middle of curve), and outside (exiting a curve) path of travel one has a tendency to be straighter, or upright riding. Most times when people lean too far over, they are past the point of safe control and generally too hot for X curve. THis too far lean is generally a pucker factor point. Say for example you are leaned all the way over riding the center line of a curve, then the curve suddenly gets tighter (decreasing radius). The rider is left with nothing but going left of center hopefully not into oncoming traffic or a semi-truck to become a hood ornament. You will find this alot on YOuTUbe videos specially with the cruiser type bikes leaning over, parts start to scrape, the cheeks are well into pucker factor 5 then target fixation happens and oooooops OFF THE ROAD THEY GO!!!!
Using the outside, inside, outside path of travel makes a curve straighter (as much as allowed). THis combined with a SLOOOOOOOOW entry speed allows for a FUN FACTOR of 10 for exiting with HARD THROTTLE APPLICATION!!! You can't get a better smile on one's face.....it sure beats fear and the PUCKER FACTOR 5!!!
You are correct!!! The better a person can understand and practice the "Correct" Path Of Travel, the smoother and faster he/she can be negotiating a curve. If you can maximize the outside (entering a curve), inside (middle of curve), and outside (exiting a curve) path of travel one has a tendency to be straighter, or upright riding. Most times when people lean too far over, they are past the point of safe control and generally too hot for X curve. THis too far lean is generally a pucker factor point. Say for example you are leaned all the way over riding the center line of a curve, then the curve suddenly gets tighter (decreasing radius). The rider is left with nothing but going left of center hopefully not into oncoming traffic or a semi-truck to become a hood ornament. You will find this alot on YOuTUbe videos specially with the cruiser type bikes leaning over, parts start to scrape, the cheeks are well into pucker factor 5 then target fixation happens and oooooops OFF THE ROAD THEY GO!!!!
Using the outside, inside, outside path of travel makes a curve straighter (as much as allowed). THis combined with a SLOOOOOOOOW entry speed allows for a FUN FACTOR of 10 for exiting with HARD THROTTLE APPLICATION!!! You can't get a better smile on one's face.....it sure beats fear and the PUCKER FACTOR 5!!!
Another factor that reduces lean angle is hanging off. Last summer I attended a KTM sponsored track day at Mid Ohio. I had read and observed hanging off before but never really tried it. I was surprised how much you use your thigh muscles. Mine were sore the next day from just a few twenty minute track sessions practicing. It is actually a workout lifting up off the seat repeatedly. I found it incredibly hard to do without upsetting the bike in the turn. My 64 year old body, probably has something to with this. Also, coming from a flat track and dirt bike background,
this is completely alien to me. Lots to learn out there! Hurry up May!
this is completely alien to me. Lots to learn out there! Hurry up May!