Rear wheel breaky

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You can see at about the 6:00 position the breakage. Spoke torque was checked before this trip, I didn't hit any memorable bad roads or bumps, I do very little off-road and what I do do is at 'relaxed' speeds. I would have guessed that I would be one of the last to have a broken wheel.
About $850 to replace and lace the wheel. Oh well.....
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I would not replace it. Any reputable welding shop can TIG weld a fresh piece of aluminum and re-drill. You don't even have to remove the spokes or tire (deflate tire though). Purchase some welding clay or heat sink paste to isolate the heat from the rest of the rim and spokes. I have done dozens of these kinds of repairs when I was fabricating for a living.

Rectorseal 83560 is a good brand. You can also use modeling clay in a pinch.
 

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Looks like a nice stiff sidewall tire you have there. Maybe you should try a car tire next time? :p (just pulling your chain)
If I had used a car tire the wheel wouldn't have broken, my hair wouldn't be falling out, and my (ahem) after hours activities would be far more exciting!! :cool:
ps - yes the parts were scarce, but available. The parts guy said the rim came from California, and was the only one he was able to find. I got it back today and should be up and running tomorrow.
 

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Did you check with Woody's Wheel Works to see if they could lace you up a better wheel setup?

 

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Define better. Woody's would just be using an OEM rim unless you wanted to go to tubes or do a tubeless conversion on a standard rim.

There have been a few rim breakage events. One lost a chunk of the bead wall area. This one from the ridge where the spokes secure. I don't think upgraded spokes would have helped this and may have accelerated the fracture.

I still wish Yamaha would offer a cast wheel option for the Super Ten. The spoked wheels were the one negative when I bought my Gen I.
 

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You can see at about the 6:00 position the breakage. Spoke torque was checked before this trip, I didn't hit any memorable bad roads or bumps, I do very little off-road and what I do do is at 'relaxed' speeds. I would have guessed that I would be one of the last to have a broken wheel.
About $850 to replace and lace the wheel. Oh well.....
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Just something to look into... I believe the Triumph ADV uses the same "rims"... they are probably from the exact same manufacture but they might be less money (maybe more)..


I just read on FB today about a Tenere guy that needed an engine part in Europe. He said he found / contacted a bike place on the NET called WeBike out of Japan. The part was half the price of any 'parts house' he normally would buy from. Interesting- something else to check out for sure if it was half price.



I poked around for one minute...

Rear rim: US, (parts house) about $505
Rear rim: WeBike- Japan...............$407

The US place probably has free shipping, it would only be worth it if WeBike had free shipping....
 
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Just something to look into... I believe the Triumph ADV uses the same "rims"... they are probably from the exact same manufacture but they might be less money (maybe more)..
Similarly, some of the Suzuki V-Stroms I've seen also appear to use the same wheels as Yamaha, as above not Idea how the price compares. Regarding the failure; spokes too tight maybe?
 

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Define better. Woody's would just be using an OEM rim unless you wanted to go to tubes or do a tubeless conversion on a standard rim.

There have been a few rim breakage events. One lost a chunk of the bead wall area. This one from the ridge where the spokes secure. I don't think upgraded spokes would have helped this and may have accelerated the fracture.

I still wish Yamaha would offer a cast wheel option for the Super Ten. The spoked wheels were the one negative when I bought my Gen I.
Anything but the stock rim would be better in my opinion. The real problem with these wheels besides the rim being a bad design is that they are only 32 spoke wheels. 36 or 40 would have been a lot stronger wheel.
 

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Anything but the stock rim would be better in my opinion. The real problem with these wheels besides the rim being a bad design is that they are only 32 spoke wheels. 36 or 40 would have been a lot stronger wheel.
I'm not going to argue that, but you can't have more spokes w/o more spoke holes in the hub. Kind of limited to what Yamaha gave us there, at least in the rear.
 

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I'm not going to argue that, but you can't have more spokes w/o more spoke holes in the hub. Kind of limited to what Yamaha gave us there, at least in the rear.
Yep. Yamaha should have built a 40 hole BMW style wheel to begin with.
 

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Good suggestions on checking other places for cheaper prices, but I had already called and ordered with my local dealer. I'm going to the Cache Gathering/Rally in Kamiah, Idaho next week and wanted the fastest fix I could find.

Also, I had hoped that the warranty would have covered it ....(ROTFLMBO).... but no such luck.

I too would prefer a cast wheel as I do very little off road, but no luck there either. The Strom has both which might be a deciding factor on the next bike.

As for welding as a fix, I don't think I would ever be able to stop fretting about having a welded wheel, call me a worry wart. Also, I wondered if it was a defect in the wheel that caused the breakage, if so I don't want to risk riding on a defective wheel any more than necessary. "Necessary" - I found the break when I got home from a ride to Colorado, I had reservations in California starting 3 days later for another ride, so it was 'necessary' to ride with the broke wheel another 3000 miles. I was on edge about the wheel during that trip even while solo, I would not want to do that 2 up.

Spokes to tight? Maybe, but I don't think so. I have the specific torque wrench for spokes. When mine broke I also wondered if they were to tight, so I cranked them all back 1/4-ish turn and then re-torqued them. None of the spokes seemed overly tight when I backed them off.

ps the $850 price is the entire cost, wheel rim, lacing, and even the taxes.
 
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Glad you got it sorted. Welded repaired rims work if it's done right. However the peace of mind doing it right is well worth the cost. As you know just keep an eye on the spokes loosening. This bike is the absolute worst motorcycle ever in regards to the spokes bedding in. At 5,000 miles mine were still loosening almost every ride.

Even when I lace my own rims they only get loose the first ride then never come loose again.
 

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They sell it al la carte. You wouldn't have to buy the hub, and spokes. As long as you know how to piece it together, it is the less expensive way to go.
 

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Just something to look into... I believe the Triumph ADV uses the same "rims"... they are probably from the exact same manufacture but they might be less money (maybe more)..


I just read on FB today about a Tenere guy that needed an engine part in Europe. He said he found / contacted a bike place on the NET called WeBike out of Japan. The part was half the price of any 'parts house' he normally would buy from. Interesting- something else to check out for sure if it was half price.



I poked around for one minute...

Rear rim: US, (parts house) about $505
Rear rim: WeBike- Japan...............$407

The US place probably has free shipping, it would only be worth it if WeBike had free shipping....
Be sure and check the reviews for WeBike before ordering from them.
 
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