Problem when shifting down into 2nd and 1st

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I rode the southern half of the Hampster today, and by the last third of the trip I was having trouble shifting down into 2nd and 1st. The transmission wouldn't shift cleanly, and the shift lever would just move with no resistance. I found that if I almost upshifted, I could then get the transmission to go down into gear. Anyone have any ideas on what might be going on?
 

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The most common issue here is the shift lever gets dry and dirty. Remove the shift lever and clean/re-grease the pivot point. there is a grease groove, but no zirc fitting, so it gets gummed up and the bike shifts poorly. Easy to do. The factory does use Loctite on that bolt, so expect some resistance and you should use some Loctite when reinstalling it.
 

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Mine did the same thing. I thought it might have been dirty, and un-lubed. I sprayed some WD-40 into the joint(s). Immediately fixed the problem So, I knew that's all it was. I was kinda concerned that it was something else, 'cuz I don't go into the dirt. Since it worked, I took it apart, and did it right.
 

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I rode the southern half of the Hampster today, and by the last third of the trip I was having trouble shifting down into 2nd and 1st. The transmission wouldn't shift cleanly, and the shift lever would just move with no resistance. I found that if I almost upshifted, I could then get the transmission to go down into gear. Anyone have any ideas on what might be going on?
Check this post out from '18:
 

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Y'all proved my point. The WD-40 is not a permanent fix, but it will tell you real quick if it's a lube problem. . . . or that spring. I always start with cheap and easy. If it doesn't work, you're not out much time or money. And. . . . sometimes ya' get lucky.
 

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I appreciate all the tips. Oddly enough, today second day of riding and the shifter didn't misbehave once. I'm inclined to favor the lubrication theory, as a broken spring would consistently not work. I'll hit the shifter linkage with some good grease when I get home.
 

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just my opinion CW , this whole forum has been beat to death . unless Yamaha does something new and exciting we will have fewer new guys joining up . and when some one does pointing a boney finger and saying "research it , its already been discussed else where here ", is not very welcoming . besides ,where else can those that have been here awhile act like they know everything . "the mountain " just wants a quick and easy answer to his concerns . its what we all want .
 

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just my opinion CW , this whole forum has been beat to death . unless Yamaha does something new and exciting we will have fewer new guys joining up . and when some one does pointing a boney finger and saying "research it , its already been discussed else where here ", is not very welcoming . besides ,where else can those that have been here awhile act like they know everything . "the mountain " just wants a quick and easy answer to his concerns . its what we all want .
A valid observation.

I answer a lot of questions that I could just say "search for this". But here's the thing, when I have a question on anything, not just Super Ten stuff here, I search for my own answers first. I rarely need to rely on the group collective for an answer on a forum or other venue because the info is almost always out there. Someone has BTDT made a video on Youtube or asked the exact question you did 3-4-10 years ago and had it answered.

You just want a quick and easy answer to your concern/question... what's easier than just poking the internet with Google and finding the answer yourself? No waiting for someone to respond, no asshole like me trying to get you to give enough information so the forum can actually give you a better answer. It's like pulling teeth sometimes to get a poster to tell us the year, mileage, what they did last to the bike and other pertinent info so we can figure out what's really going on and offer a solution.

Sometimes the perception of a problem is not the same as an actual problem.
 

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I'm with Mr. Bertrand. I've always though that we're all here because we like the same bike, and like to talk about that bike. It's also likely to be a generational thing. My kids immediately go to Youtube. They'll call me sometimes to diagnose an issue, but they go right back to Youtube for the fix. I am used to asking a friend that I think might have the knowledge I need for whatever I'm working on at the time. And, to be honest, our "search" box rarely works for me. I either get "too many words", or "not enough words". And, when I do get a result, it's not the one I'm looking for.

There's a member that's been messaging me for advise about his bike. It never crossed my to just tell him to use "search". Since I am definitely not very Tenere savvy, and after much conversation, we decided that he needed to contact one of our resident experts.

Maybe after 10 years on the Forum, a person gets jaded. It's still fun to me. And, there's nowhere else, for me, that I get to converse with people on the other side of the planet. So, ask away. . . . if I can answer a question, I will.
 

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I'm with Mr. Bertrand. I've always though that we're all here because we like the same bike, and like to talk about that bike. It's also likely to be a generational thing. My kids immediately go to Youtube. They'll call me sometimes to diagnose an issue, but they go right back to Youtube for the fix. I am used to asking a friend that I think might have the knowledge I need for whatever I'm working on at the time. And, to be honest, our "search" box rarely works for me. I either get "too many words", or "not enough words". And, when I do get a result, it's not the one I'm looking for.

There's a member that's been messaging me for advise about his bike. It never crossed my to just tell him to use "search". Since I am definitely not very Tenere savvy, and after much conversation, we decided that he needed to contact one of our resident experts.

Maybe after 10 years on the Forum, a person gets jaded. It's still fun to me. And, there's nowhere else, for me, that I get to converse with people on the other side of the planet. So, ask away. . . . if I can answer a question, I will.
totally agree with you fella

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just my opinion CW , this whole forum has been beat to death . unless Yamaha does something new and exciting we will have fewer new guys joining up . and when some one does pointing a boney finger and saying "research it , its already been discussed else where here ", is not very welcoming . besides ,where else can those that have been here awhile act like they know everything . "the mountain " just wants a quick and easy answer to his concerns . its what we all want .
I do agree that most teach issues with the bike have been beaten to death and while it must not have come across that way, was not criticizing the OP. Just remarking about how there are some questions that come up each year with the new crop of owners.
 
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I don't mind at all answering the same questions to help out a fellow rider. As Terry "madhatter" stated fresh oil changes help with notchy shifting. I recommend to lubricate not only shifting shaft but also brake every oil change or so. I have found out over the years on all my bikes as soon as I start to get false neutrals it's time for an oil change.

Thank you Mr Mountain for reminding us to keep up with maintaining or machines. This thread is a win all the way around for us riders looking out for each other instead of complaining it's been brought up before.
 

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I'm just saying its also fun to coach others .... and though I understand CW 's view some of us get enjoyment out of helping others or sharing our (my )limited knowledge on the subject of this bike. and I believe it helps others to feel included .
maybe some of the really old stuff could be deleted or archived somewhere else (probably not practicable ) its Yamahas fault by not giving us new stuff to crow about (t700 not included ) . how about a TFT dash , more advanced ABS etc. whole new area of conversations . it could be.
 
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