Power Commander V

[SisuTen]

I did the usual precursory search and found nothing, so this may or may not be news.

I was checking around today and stopped in on the Dynajet site only to find they have a PC-V for the Super Tenere available. No mention of being able to use the Autotune unit, but that will come in time. No maps are available yet on the website.

Because of the price, $399, most will probably not be that interested, but being as I live at 5000 ft elevation and will ride between that and 9000 ft, this will be one of the first additions to my bike when I get it. A sea-level map will likely not be the optimum setup for my location.

Paul

 

[colorider]

but being as I live at 5000 ft elevation and will ride between that and 9000 ft, this will be one of the first additions to my bike when I get it. A sea-level map will likely not be the optimum setup for my location.

And since I'm virtually "right next door" this may very well be something I am interested in as well! My riding will likely include a fair amount of sea level as well, since I do a lot of cross-country rides.

Thanks for the "find"!!

Rod

 

[Koinz]

I would be interested in hearing how the stock bike runs at high altitude, I thought it was possible to make minor fuel map changes for idle mixture. I would typically only use these if there is some drivability issue that can't be resolved otherwise.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

A Power Commander with the right map really woke up my DL1000. I'll wait to see how I like the stock map, but I suspect I'll have a PC5 before too long. There's something about being able to wheelie in 3rd gear that just makes me happy.

 

[SisuTen]

I would be interested in hearing how the stock bike runs at high altitude, I thought it was possible to make minor fuel map changes for idle mixture. I would typically only use these if there is some drivability issue that can't be resolved otherwise.

In Penn, you should be fine. If you get a PC, you will also be able to download (no charge) maps that apply specifically to modifications (pipe, air filter) you may choose to make.

However, the Power Commander V combined with the Autotune unit provides a mapping system that "learns" not only the proper fuel map, but also how you personally ride and makes appropriate changes. The system interfaces with a laptop and once 20% changes are made you must "accept" them. The unit then uses those settings as the norm and continues to make changes as necessary, constantly fine tuning. You can also save custom maps (either downloaded or developed) that you can use when you go from Colorado to Pennsylvania or vice versa. The PC-V can save several maps on-board and be selected on the road. Dyno guys hate them, since they get $250 and up very time they put your bike on the rollers.

It's, IMHO, the best single farkle out there. I'll get many of the other items such as guards, skid, luggage, etc, but this in the ONE thing it absolutely will have.

A lot of guys will be satisfied with the stock settings and feel they have plenty of performance. That's fine and they'll be happy. A PC-V does go beyond that, certainly adding performance, but also enhancing driveability (snatchy low speed throttle has already been mentioned). Just remember that the stock map as delivered will be the one that works reasonably well in most cases and is designed to provide the required emissions control. I don't trust the government and if I can get better driveability combined with better performance, it seems a no-brainer. An additional $700 or so on a $14000 bike seems minor.

I have no interest in the sales of this product, I wish they'd give me a discount.

Paul

 

[SisuTen]

A Power Commander with the right map really woke up my DL1000. I'll wait to see how I like the stock map, but I suspect I'll have a PC5 before too long. There's something about being able to wheelie in 3rd gear that just makes me happy.

+! for sure!! Not sure about 3rd gear wheelies on the ST, but we definitely will see!! ;D

 

[Dirt_Dad]

+! for sure!! Not sure about 3rd gear wheelies on the ST, but we definitely will see!! ;D

My DL1000 couldn't do it until I had the right map in my Power Commander. It's a tool that can make a bike a lot more fun.

 

[switchback]

I have read a lot on the Power Commander V with Autotune. The Husqvarna Guys love them because it transforms the bikes into what they should be. Basically say it is like riding a whole new bike.

 

[adventorider76]

I'm not too familiar with Power Commander V, but the guy I bought my bike from down in Irving, Texas pretty much insisted I get it for the bike. He said that it will improve mpg as well as overall performance. They have a dyno machine right there at the dealership, so i'm looking forward to seeing the results.

BC

 

[~TABASCO~]

I'm not too familiar with Power Commander V, but the guy I bought my bike from down in Irving, Texas pretty much insisted I get it for the bike. He said that it will improve mpg as well as overall performance. They have a dyno machine right there at the dealership, so i'm looking forward to seeing the results.

BC

Ya got your bike from Jason too ? Me to! Are they going to carry the PC V there ? When did you order ?

 

[adventorider76]

Ya got your bike from Jason too ? Me to! Are they going to carry the PC V there ? When did you order ?

Yep, ordered back in November. I don't think that the PC V was available when I ordered mine, but undoubtedly they'll have it by the time the bike arrives. I'm expecting mine in July!

 

[SpeedStar]

I saw that Solomoto has these on their website now for $349. Another to add to my list.

 

[scottdc]

Soooo, could you theoretically map it to run on lower octane fuel with this? I ride in places where there's not a whole lot of options for gas and the ability to run it on 89 or 87 instead of the 91 Yamaha has specified would be really nice....

 

[colorider]

Soooo, could you theoretically map it to run on lower octane fuel with this? I ride in places where there's not a whole lot of options for gas and the ability to run it on 89 or 87 instead of the 91 Yamaha has specified would be really nice....

Welcome to the Forum scottdc! Good question - as I plan to ride mine to AK next year!

 

[TEN YC]

engine modes and PC V

what's the deal with using the power commander and the 2 power modes of the Super Tenere?


I have no idea how exactly the power modes implement themselves on the bike. But my question is, if you install a full system and remap accordingly and everything is fine tuned in sport mode, for example, will things be screwed up on touring mode?

Do the modes change the fueling at all where this would be a problem? Or are the modes created by adjusting other pathways?

 

[markjenn]

Re: engine modes and PC V

what's the deal with using the power commander and the 2 power modes of the Super Tenere?


I have no idea how exactly the power modes implement themselves on the bike. But my question is, if you install a full system and remap accordingly and everything is fine tuned in sport mode, for example, will things be screwed up on touring mode?

Do the modes change the fueling at all where this would be a problem? Or are the modes created by adjusting other pathways?

I don't know for sure how the modes work, but all the info we have now is that changing between S and T does ONLY one thing - affect how quickly the throttle butterflies open when you twist the throttle. It does this by using different electronic "throttle cams" (how much power you get at intermediate throttle positions) and by adding or subtracting damping. There is no information to indicate that the modes have any affect at all on engine tune, mixture, timing, etc. The PC should be completely oblivious to modes.

- Mark

 

[20valves]

Re: engine modes and PC V

The PC should be completely oblivious to modes.

Exactly right. I have a PCV with auto tune module on my '09 R1 and it is completely indifferent to the 3 throttle modes. The power mode can indeed be considered a mechanical device which changes the rate of throttle opening, nothing else.

I would be interested in hearing how the stock bike runs at high altitude, I thought it was possible to make minor fuel map changes for idle mixture. I would typically only use these if there is some drivability issue that can't be resolved otherwise.

This seems to suggest that the EFI on the S10 is no more sophisticated than a pair of carbs with fixed jets and that is simply not the case. While the OEM fuel map may be "performance compromised" for emissions reasons, it will certainly be able to deal with altitude and such and the PC module will not affect that aspect of the system.

 

[Turk]

Hi Guys,

I don't know much about power commander and how it works..but I'd like to learn...would it reduce the fuel consumption ? also does it stay on the bike installed or you just plug in the unit make adjustments and take it off?

 

[SisuTen]

Turk,

It mounts on the bike. Here's the link, check out any questions you might have.

http://www.powercommander.com/eng_default.aspx

Paul

 

[markjenn]

...would it reduce the fuel consumption ? also does it stay on the bike installed or you just plug in the unit make adjustments and take it off?

They typically increase fuel consumption by biasing the fuel map towards higher consumption, more power, and better throttle response rather than lower consumption and lowest emissions. For the most part, they tune the bike Yamaha might have preferred to tune it if they didn't have to meet emissions constraints.

- Mark