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[moto.monk]

So just left another Facebook group that was suppose to help veterans. What I have found that many of group serve to help themselves or to help the ideas of the person who help create the group. I have found after a few years of joins these groups that it sucks that you have to learn this the hard way. But like in the military if its not hard we dont do it.

 

[Old Scratch]

That is common. We live in the #lookatme generation. And sadly, even veterans take advantage of it. Have you noticed the veterans furthest away from the mission tend to be the most "veteran" on Facebook? You guys need to get on that next level. I dont see enough 5.11 pants and Grunt Style shirts on here.

 

[moto.monk]

I am very picky about which charities I give to. St Judes is one of my favorite. I have never heard anything bad about them and I have a soft spot for kids. I have noticed the work place now will pressure you to give to their charities. This rubs my rhubarb the wrong way. They were helping employees out from the Texas flood. No accountability just give us your money and some of it will go to the people who need it. When I asked to see the amount collected and what and where it had been distributed. You would think I was the anti Christ. They were publicly pressuring me to give using peer pressure. I held my ground. I said I am not comfortable giving you money. I don’t know what you are doing with it. Besides this is the car business. I know we are a fortune 100 but it is still the car business shady shit goes on. Then I said I pick my charities they don’t pick me. He then questioned weather or Not I give to charity. I stood up in the meeting walked to the front plugged my phone into our monitor pulled up my online banking and showed the contribution. Then I said we now now I am not full of shit. You asked these men to part with their hard earned money and just trust you will do the right thing. I assume you would not be asking such a thing if you had not contributed Yourself. Besides why does this fall to us, We work for a fortune 100 company swimming in profit. You and the other managers out earn us 3 or 4 to 1. So why don’t you show us your contribution. He said I am going to do it. I said unha. The meeting was quickly ad·journ.

Actually i use to work for non profit that helped veterans and others. The agreed was bad at times what worse is they could care less about vets and it's own employees. We had a guy last 3 weeks because the company didn't disclose all of what job would be.

 

[Checkswrecks]

...You asked these men to part with their hard earned money and just trust you will do the right thing. ... Besides why does this fall to us, We work for a fortune 100 company swimming in profit. You and the other managers out earn us 3 or 4 to 1. So why don’t you show us your contribution. He said I am going to do it. I said unha. The meeting was quickly ad·journ.

Performance appraisals routinely have a point or two for community service, helping others, or some similar wording. It can be as simple as how well the person or group responds to questions from other people, but coming up with numerical targets does happen in some cases.
How many customers did a bank teller average per hour?
What is the wait time for lines at a restaurant?
How many cars did Joe sell in a month?

It'd be EASY to see contribution dollar amounts drive performance reviews for managers at companies like yours which sound to be bottom-line sales oriented.

 

[WJBertrand]

Have you noticed the veterans furthest away from the mission tend to be the most "veteran"?

Before the days of facebook, but this rings true. My ex-brother in law used to play up his time in the service during "nam". You would have thought he was deep in the rice patties with bullets zinging past his head, to hear him tell it. Thing is, he never even set foot in or near Vietnam. He trained as a medic I think, but spent his enlisted time in the states with a stint in Germany doing administrivia stuff.

 

[Nikolajsen]

Nice picture

 

[Sierra1]

That is common. We live in the #lookatme generation. . . . I dont see enough 5.11 pants and Grunt Style shirts on here.

Ask, and Ye shall receive. Literally, the shirt off my back. (dog hair to prove it) I have a slew of Grunt Style & Ranger Up shirts, and drinking gear. The sad part is that I rarely get a compliment on the shirts. The only time I got a "cool shirt" comment from a person was a Seattle tourist shirt that my sister-n-law got me. That was the last time I wore that one.

 

[EricV]

Far too true. When I lived in St George, UT the local riding group we were part of had many Vets. The one guy that wore it on his sleeve and would get all ass hurt about anything Veteran related and was a big flag waving fellow with the local chapters of various organizations, etc, did less than a full year in country as a draftee and had USMC tats all over his arms and flag tats, etc. The retired cops that usually didn't put up with his crap, along with myself were all enlisted guys that did full enlistments. The two retired LEOs did multiple tours in Nam and the quiet one did some black shit that he wouldn't talk about much. But he never waved that in anyone's face. I learned to stop telling people I served a few years after I got out. Too much negative baggage from other people that didn't have a clue what really goes on in the military or in combat.

 

[AVGeek]

I'm one of the few males in family that didn't serve (although flying for the Navy was on my list, but I think my hearing would have disqualified me). I knew very little about the experiences my grandfather (WWII) and father (Cold War) had. My grandfather had one leg shorter than the other for as long as I could remember, until he had a hip replacement. And it wasn't until shortly before he died that I asked enough questions for him to open up about where he was and how he was injured. Same with my father, one of the last conversations I had with him before he passed, he told me about his service (turned out he was trained for comms duty, and I was surprised to hear it was on the Enigma machine, even though he was Vietnam era). He also told me about visiting one of the concentration camps while he was stationed in Germany...he said even 25 years after the end of the Holocaust you could still smell death there...

 

[moto.monk]

I'm one of the few males in family that didn't serve (although flying for the Navy was on my list, but I think my hearing would have disqualified me). I knew very little about the experiences my grandfather (WWII) and father (Cold War) had. My grandfather had one leg shorter than the other for as long as I could remember, until he had a hip replacement. And it wasn't until shortly before he died that I asked enough questions for him to open up about where he was and how he was injured. Same with my father, one of the last conversations I had with him before he passed, he told me about his service (turned out he was trained for comms duty, and I was surprised to hear it was on the Enigma machine, even though he was Vietnam era). He also told me about visiting one of the concentration camps while he was stationed in Germany...he said even 25 years after the end of the Holocaust you could still smell death there...

Thank you for sharing I have seen a few Vietnam vets and gulf war and man they where in bad shape. I felt sad when I saw and smelled a Vietnam vet smelling of liquor at 10 am at my local veterans hospital. It made me think man how long has he been dealing with the aftermath of war. He was being helded up by one arm by his wife. When i think about what all my fellow veterans have fought for it sickness me to see these companies who support veterans but in reality after being part of different veterans organizations it's all a fraud and nothing more then a new way to find money.

 

[Sierra1]

My earliest memories of my grandfather were of a huge, always teasing, gravel voiced person. I was 5 or 6. There was a several decade gap in our relationship due to moving a lot. When we got back on visiting terms, he would tell stories to my boys and I. He would talk of Colonel Merrill, and their exploits. One day I was watching the History Channel, and saw an episode about Merrill's Marauders. H o l y s h i t. . . . I always kinda knew that grandpa had been a bad ass. But, after watching the episode. . . . and learning of their accomplishments. . . . all doubt was removed. In his prime, he was 6' 5" @ 350lbs. Even in his 80s, he still weighed 225ish. He would always talk how they f**ked with the Japanese, and stole their food. Come to find out, most of his stories were very likely understatements. I don't think the war had effected him. Grandpa, a Catholic, had read the Bible, The Book of Mormon, and the Koran. I'm curious what his comments would be on the country's current state of affairs. He never went looking for trouble, but he didn't walk away from it either.

 

[Sierra1]

I imagine, if you're a buff, you've seen Band of Brothers. My opinion is that it should be mandatory watching for all high schoolers, along with Saving Private Ryan. Kids have no idea of the sacrifices that have been made for their freedoms. History classes are not what they used to be.