Oxford heated grips

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Re: Heated grips conector help needed.

sounds like you have a momentary relay, or one that does not stay energized. what are you using as a ground? you could (or might need to) run a wire back the battery/ground. relay logic gets tricky and at times the coil can provide a ground in the event a real ground is missing or bad.
 

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Re: Heated grips conector help needed.

patrickg450 said:
sounds like you have a momentary relay, or one that does not stay energized. what are you using as a ground? you could (or might need to) run a wire back the battery/ground. relay logic gets tricky and at times the coil can provide a ground in the event a real ground is missing or bad.
I used both triger and ground wires from the very same factory optional heated grips conector.
It works perfect when i turn the key on. I never suspected that starting the motor would make a difference.
Something gets shut off in that conector when engine starts.
I need to test the conector with the motor runing.

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Re: Heated grips conector help needed.

I'm guessing you don't have a fuse block, or distribution panel that you run your electrical farkles thru? If so, run the grips thru the 'switched' portion of that and it solves your issue.
 

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Re: Heated grips conector help needed.

No fuse block. I only added 2 relays 1 for my 6" LED lightbar that works great and 1 for heated grips that's messing with me.

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Re: Heated grips conector help needed.

Use a multimeter to see if the switch wire stays hot once the engine starts. If the wire stays powered then change the relay. If the wire loses power then change to use something like the cigarette outlet as a switch source.
 

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Re: Heated grips conector help needed.

Good advice up above. I now run PDM60, which are expensive as hell, but programmable, and have no relays or fuses. I had similar gremlins adding items to my sport touring bike, and finally bit the bullet and bought one. One time it was a weird ground issue, one time it was putting the wires wrong on the relay, I was following the diagram stamped on the device, but it functioned differently than the diagram, one time I did not ever find the issue, and that made me finally give up.
 

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patrickg450 said:
sounds like you have a momentary relay, or one that does not stay energized. what are you using as a ground? you could (or might need to) run a wire back the battery/ground. relay logic gets tricky and at times the coil can provide a ground in the event a real ground is missing or bad.
I think you were pretty close . The relay had no ground. What i thought was a ground it turned out to be a wire going (+) while motor is running.
I found a proper ground and it all works like it should now.

By the way i only run it in a garage but these Oxford Adventure felt very balanced as far as heat goes. Looking forward to a road test now.

Thx.
 

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Re: Heated grips conector help needed.

spinalator said:
Good advice up above. I now run PDM60, which are expensive as hell, but programmable, and have no relays or fuses. I had similar gremlins adding items to my sport touring bike, and finally bit the bullet and bought one. One time it was a weird ground issue, one time it was putting the wires wrong on the relay, I was following the diagram stamped on the device, but it functioned differently than the diagram, one time I did not ever find the issue, and that made me finally give up.
I hear you. I too have a braking point :) sometimes you just say f.. it and pull your wallet out.
But this is the last electrical addition to my bike. So it was $5 relay at auto parts store or $200-300 gadget at a bike store. Well... i went cheap :)

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Oxford heatgrips electric ?

Hello ...
Just won at set oxford heatgrips from lokal bike company ...
QUASTION :

Genuine / stock heatgrips contact , WHY is it Four ( 4 ) cabels ,
i need ground ( - ) and positive ( + ) on ignition / bike running ,
witch Cabels use ?
Do i need to use relay ? ( maximum 4A heatgrips )

Merry christmas !




 

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Re: Oxford heatgrips electric ?

The Oxtord grips will have to be run directly to the battery. They will not plug into the stock wiring. The Oxfords have a smart controller and will turn off automatically if you turn the engine off and forget and leave the grips on. On my S10 I hooked them up to a relay that was only powered with the key on.
 

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Re: Oxford heatgrips electric ?

I hooked mine directly to the battery. They turn off automatically a couple of minutes after the bike is turn off.
 

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Re: Oxford heatgrips electric ?

First off - The Oxford grips are GREAT. You will be happy with them. The auto shutoff feature is nice if you forget to turn them off. The controller senses if the motor is off and turns the grips off for you.

Be sure to read the install manual:
http://www.oxford-products.com/downloads/OFV8-USA-Instructions.pdf

The grips come with a wiring harness that connects to your battery and that includes a fuse. You can install the leads directly to your battery. Over time you may install other electrical accessories on the bike and if you try to hook up all of them directly to the battery, you'll end up with a mess at the terminals. A better option is to install a terminal just for wiring accessories. It will cost you more money up front but will pay for itself over time with easier installation and reliability of other electrical stuff added to the bike. (Heated jacket, extra lights, GPS powered lead, etc...)

There is a thread on the forum for one popular terminal option, the Eastern Beaver PC8. I have this on my own ST.
http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=8215.0

The Eastern Beaver terminal installs using power from the Yamaha supplied heated grip power socket already on the bike. It also has a direct connection to the battery for always-on power. This lets you attach accessories that will only be powered when the bike is switched as well as some that can be always on. I have a charging socket that is always on so I can charge my phone or Sena headphone unit overnight.

Of course, you can go ahead and install your grips now directly to the battery and get the terminal later if you feel you need it.

Here's a photo of the grip controller installed on my bile. I find this location works well.

 

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Re: Oxford heatgrips electric ?

pnelson said:
First off - The Oxford grips are GREAT. You will be happy with them. The auto shutoff feature is nice if you forget to turn them off. The controller senses if the motor is off and turns the grips off for you.

Be sure to read the install manual:
http://www.oxford-products.com/downloads/OFV8-USA-Instructions.pdf

The grips come with a wiring harness that connects to your battery and that includes a fuse. You can install the leads directly to your battery. Over time you may install other electrical accessories on the bike and if you try to hook up all of them directly to the battery, you'll end up with a mess at the terminals. A better option is to install a terminal just for wiring accessories. It will cost you more money up front but will pay for itself over time with easier installation and reliability of other electrical stuff added to the bike. (Heated jacket, extra lights, GPS powered lead, etc...)



There is a thread on the forum for one popular terminal option, the Eastern Beaver PC8. I have this on my own ST.
http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=8215.0

The Eastern Beaver terminal installs using power from the Yamaha supplied heated grip power socket already on the bike. It also has a direct connection to the battery for always-on power. This lets you attach accessories that will only be powered when the bike is switched as well as some that can be always on. I have a charging socket that is always on so I can charge my phone or Sena headphone unit overnight.

Of course, you can go ahead and install your grips now directly to the battery and get the terminal later if you feel you need it.

Here's a photo of the grip controller installed on my bile. I find this location works well.

Same here. I use the Eastern Beaver 3-way (http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/Fuseboxes/3_Circuit/3_circuit.html), although there is several others that give more flexability. For me, I want the grips, or any other accessory I have put on the bike to turn off when I shut the bike off if I have forgotten to myself. I don't want something to run for "x" time and then shut off when it senses the battery voltage dropping if I accidently leave it on. Nice backup to have though.

And the Oxfords are great. Works really well.

Mark
 

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3-pin Female Aux connector (A.K.A. Aux Light Plug):
Black = Ground
Red / White stripe = 12V always on with 20A fuse
Brown = 12V on when ignition is on with 20A fuse

How many Ampere can i connect to brown ( + igntion ) ...
is 3,6 A okay without relay .... ? Ground ( - ) connected to black ....

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Xt1200zsupertenere said:
3-pin Female Aux connector (A.K.A. Aux Light Plug):
Black = Ground
Red / White stripe = 12V always on with 20A fuse
Brown = 12V on when ignition is on with 20A fuse

How many Ampere can i connect to brown ( + igntion ) ...
is 3,6 A okay without relay .... ? Ground ( - ) connected to black ....

Oxford heatgrips
An old rule of thumb is 1/3 the fuse, so if the OEM fuse is 20A AND this is the only thing on the circuit, then 3.6 should be fine.

Your post in the connectors thread has been deleted. Do NOT double post, which is no different here than in most other forums.
 

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Because of an aftermarket light switch, mounting the Oxford grip controller near the left mirror of my Gen 2 ST will not work for me.

I am not excited about the wire hanging down in such a way that it might get snagged by a tree branch. (Probably unlikely but I think it does not look great either.)

So, I am trying to think of other locations to mount the controller.

It would be great to see or read of where you mounted your Oxford heated grip controller.

Thanks for the help!
 

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Riteris said:
Because of an aftermarket light switch, mounting the Oxford grip controller near the left mirror of my Gen 2 ST will not work for me.

I am not excited about the wire hanging down in such a way that it might get snagged by a tree branch. (Probably unlikely but I think it does not look great either.)

So, I am trying to think of other locations to mount the controller.

It would be great to see or read of where you mounted your Oxford heated grip controller.

Thanks for the help!

I saw a picture of the controller mounted inside the left hand guard once. Pretty low profile way to do it. My controller mounted at the left mirror stalk doesn't interfere with my aux light switch.
 

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I might have seen that same photo of the controller mounted in the handguard. Right now, that is my favorite mounting spot.

(The cruise control switches make mounting the controller at the mirror a bit more difficult.)
 
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