Off Route Adventures Course Review

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I took an Adv course at Off Route Adventures in Fort Collins, CO. I figured the group would like to hear how it went. http://www.offrouteadv.com/

If you’re pressed for time here’s the take away. The course is worth your time & money, if you’re fairly new to adv riding (read back roads and trails) and are ‘just trying to keep up’ with the more experienced folks you ride with. If you’re that rider that breaks the rear wheel lose on most curves and has a decade or two riding experience you may want to hold off for an advanced course. If you’ve been riding on pavement forever and want to venture off the beaten path this is a good choice for you as well.

We’ve all poured over videos on the internet to learn this technique or that, having someone there to coach you along real time makes all the difference in the world.

Tery (owner/instructor) does not have facilities nor provide meals that keeps the cost low which I liked. Not to mention we hit some local places for lunch which was nice. To put it in perspective the cost is on par a couple of farkles we all add like crash bars, luggage racks, foot pegs etc. It was a 2 day course in the Fort Collins area of Colorado. For those of you coming from outside Colorado the scenery cannot be beat, we even needed to negotiate right of way with cattle being moved by ranchers on horseback.



I’ve never taken a motorcycle course other than the basic motorcycle safety course that most folks take to get their license. I’ve been riding for about 26 months total and rode a Yamaha Super Tenere, now on to the meat of the course.

Topics covered:

Threshold breaking. This is a non-issue for a Super Tenere, I’ve never grabbed a fist full of brake on a gravel road but this gave me additional confidence.

Curves! Next we went over to how to deal with curves on gravel roads, this has always been my weakness. We learned techniques for manipulating the handlebars and counter weighting. Tery was keen on explaining the need to keep you weight over the contact patch (where the tires meet the road). We also learned how to stay seated or to stand in the curves. Given we were on back roads in Colorado we had plenty of curves to negotiate including a number of decreasing radius curves. This part was a huge help to me, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve come around a curve to see a truck pulling a trailer taking his ½ of the road out of the middle section.

Then on to low speed drills. We did the dreaded figure 8 in a box as well as a few other shapes. Through repetition and coaching this is where I learned balance is everything. For me it was like a scene from the Karate Kid, balance Danielson….. The outside foot pointing we all see in videos was an eye opener, when I felt like I had that puppy cranked WAY over I’d like down to see that it’s angled much at all. Driving the outside knee into the tank was a key for me. All this stuff translated over to handling the bike on curvy gravel roads. I notice and improvement as soon as we moved on to the next training location.

In addition to moving down gravel roads we hit a few narrow 2 track trails. Some were wet/slick and rutted up with some steep grades. Not super hard but not a cake walk either. These were done after we did our slow speed balancing drills and curves on gravel roads to practice guiding the bike by weighting it as well as steering it.

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Continued:

The other drills where:

Again maneuvering in confined spaces, developing that balance.
Stopping at a mark while standing, then starting again without dabbing a foot. This is to deal with an unexpected obstacle on a trail etc.

Turning the bike on difficult surfaces like snow, mud or sand by manipulating your weight. This came in handy this past weekend in sand on part of the COBDR route near Buena Vista, CO.

Going over obstacles, logs, curbs etc. This was plain fun.

Stop / stall on hill. Not such simple task on a big bike, in particular given how soft the ground was. My front wheel ended up digging a rut that I had to get out off.

Coming down hill at very slow and controlled speed. This one was tough for me, the ABS did not like me going so slow down a semi-slick grade. As a result I came down a bit faster than the desired speed but in total control.

Much of the course was building on these skills, all the while moving from one location to another allowing us to work on handling the bike in curves while Tery rode up and down the line of students. We’d get a critique and suggestions on the spot or he’d do it at the next stop.

Instruction style was informal and the class size was small. It allowed Tery to work with each individual and sort out how best to get his points across to each of us. No cookie cutter approach here, again a big plus. Additionally we were all able to watch our fellow students and hear Tery’s critique during the low speed maneuver drills. I found it helpful to watch and learn.

The big take away was learning just how much I need to learn about how to balance the bike. Or stated another way how much I didn’t know. Keeping your head and eyes UP and in the direction you want to move. When maneuvering move the eyes and head in the direction you want to go (keep the head/eyes up), let the shoulders follow, correct counter weighting also gets the hips pointed in the direction you want to go. If you maintain your balance and your speed is matched to the degree of turn and lean all is good.

All in all I thought the course was a good value. Now it’s up to me to practice the skills I learned until I can do them without thinking about it.
 

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I'd sign up in a heartbeat if I didn't have to go all the way to a so. Then again... Lol.
 

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Thanks, lowdrag, for this review. I learned to ride on a dirt bike, but that was 40 years ago. I've been on street bikes ever since, and just recently bought my ST. This course looks like something I would be interested in, but it looks like the website hasn't been updated for 2016. I wonder if they are still in business.
 

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For us East coasters, everybody at the Romney Camp-N-Ride was very happy with Alain at XPLOR-INT. He's located in PA and does a lot of events throughout the region, so see his schedule and he may come near you.
Say "hi"
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http://www.xplor-int.com/Pages/default.aspx
 

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I'm glad that someone bumped an older thread because it caught my eye. The link is still good and the price listed is $385 for 2 days...not unreasonable.

Personally, I've got over 200,000 miles on motorcycles with a few thousand being off-road... but it doesn't mean that I've been doing it "right" all this time. There's always room to learn.

Jim
 

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BadNews said:
Thanks, lowdrag, for this review. I learned to ride on a dirt bike, but that was 40 years ago. I've been on street bikes ever since, and just recently bought my ST. This course looks like something I would be interested in, but it looks like the website hasn't been updated for 2016. I wonder if they are still in business.
I see you're from Ohio but if you plan to be in Colorado hit Terry up via the contact info on his web site. He's a super nice guy and LOVES to ride. Also let him know you found the review here. Ask him if he remembers Mark on the blue Super Tenere from last year.
 
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Low Drag - Thanks for the review of this course. Definitely sounds like something I'd like to do. All the skills you described are things I could stand to improve. And the price is very reasonable; $1500+ less than RawHyde. I don't need their fancy wine or cooking; I just want to learn the skills. I'm very comfortable on the KTM in those types of situations but the Tenere feels REALLY HEAVY now that I have logged almost 2000 miles on the dirt bike. Even pushing the Tenere around in the garage to run it around gets my attention. ???
 
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