Oem Panniers

Boonerp

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Just purchased a 2014 ES and need to order some panniers. I like the look of the OEM panniers but the reviews are mixed at best. Can someone who has the OEM panniers please comment on the quality and what its like to live with them? I'll be doing only light off road and don't need indestructible cases however Id like something that works and looks good on the bike.

Thanks for any opinions.
 

jwhuls

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I like them. The key can be tricky but its what makes them so good and you get used to it. I have taken a hit on both sides now. Leaving very little damage.

Get the soft bags for the inside. It makes a nice removable travel case
 

cb0802

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The OEM panniers are good, but not great. The pros: they fit close to the bike, they look good on the bike, and a single key for all your locks.
The cons:
Plastic mounting points: I've been down twice, once pretty hard and once from a stop. The bags have held up great, but the platic mounting tabs on the mounting bracket came loose, and the platic mounting point on the bag stretched. Nothing broke, but both bags sag at bit.
Limited space: They are 33 liter, and I am planning on buying a 45 liter set for the extra space. I commute daily, and you can shove a lot of gear into the bags, but would prefer to have a little extra space. Personnal preference, and many would prefere the narrow width than the larger volume.
You can't leave them unlocked: Having matching keys is great, unless you forget something in the bag. I don't make a habit of carrying two keys, but would have to do that if I had aftermarket luggage. Though most can be left unlocked while in travel.
 

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I have no complaints about mine at all. They look great, well made, don't rattle at all, and the best part is that when you don't have them on, the mount has such a low profile you barely know it's there. There's been some talk about issues with the key/lock being difficult to turn. This really isn't an issue in my experience. The cases are designed to close tight and all I have to do is gently press down on the lid when I lock the case and there's barely any resistance to locking it at all.
 

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I had the OEM Yamaha accessory side cases for more than 3 years and nearly 40,000 miles. The only reason they weren't on the bike when I rode it out of the dealer's back in August 2011 was because the cases hadn't come in yet!

Yes, the reviews are, as you say, "mixed", but if you look closely you'll see that most of the people who say detrimental things about the Yamaha cases are those who have never owned them. By and large, those who actually own them and live with them like them, both here and on ADVrider, too. Yes, they have their quirks, just like *ALL* brand of panniers out there, but much like the Super Tenere itself the best quality of the Yamaha side cases is *balance*. They look like they belong on the bike, they fit tight and close to be as narrow as possible, they go on and off easily and quickly, when they're off the mounts are unobtrusive and almost invisible, they are top-loaders (my favorite, period) yet the lid stays attached when open, they open forward which makes them easy to load yet they don't get wider when open, they lock securely, etc., etc. My only wish is that were a bit larger in capacity, but again, that's part of the *balance*... They hold enough, and have held enough for me to do two-week trips and the like away from hope with little or no other luggage.

People bitch a lot about the locks, but honestly, if they are assembled carefully and you learn to operate the locks correctly then they function flawlessly. At least mine have for nearly 40-K miles and they are on the bike literally all the time, being opened and closed numerous times per day of riding. Pre-lube your lock cylinders with a *PROPER* plastic-safe lock lubricant, make sure you loctite and properly torque the screws holding the locks together when first assembled, and learn to press down on the lid when locking or unlocking the cases. That's all it takes.

The reason you have to press down on the lids when opening is on each case lid there are two spring-loaded *buttons* on either side of the latching pin. These are there to make sure the latching pin stays firm up against the hook of the case latch. Yamaha (or Shad, who makes the cases for Yamaha, and also makes BMW G/S cases, BTW) designed it that way for multiple reasons, all good ones. But it's these spring-loaded "buttons" that cause so many people such consternation. They go to turn the key in the lock on the case, but without pressing down lightly on the case lid, and indeed it feels like they are going to twist the key off... That's because they are not only trying to turn the lock and latch hook, but doing so under some pretty severe spring pressure holding the latching pin against the latch hook. Press down lightly on the lid and all that pressure is removed on the locking mechanism, and the lock turns easily - like butter.

There's also a couple of little tricks for working the mechanism for unlatching the cases for removal from the bike, and once you learn those the bags go on and off the bike quickly, easily, and smoothly. Again, once you learn why they are designed and made the way they are it all makes perfect sense, and you see th elegance and intelligence of the design choices.

I've dropped my bike about a half-dozen times on the bags... All low speed to zero MPH drops, but still the bags have survived literally unscathed. No marking of the aluminum panels at all, and only minor scuffing of the front plastic corners. This has been easy to dress back up with some simple file, sandpaper, plastic polish, and elbow grease. And the best part is that the cases have protected the rest of the bike, as well as my legs, on every drop. Every time the bags have not popped open, or otherwise had any problem of any kind. I picked the bike up and rode home, with the contents of the side cases perfectly intact.

Last, but not least, the Yamaha side case are 100% waterproof. I have ridden with them for hours in driving, heavy rain, and have never seen a drop of water in them. They are so waterproof I even wash them at the car wash pressure washer, and again, never a drop of water inside.

As you can tell, I'm a fan of the Yamaha side cases. You can do a whole lot worse, and it's hard to do better, IMHO. ::008::

Dallara



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Boonerp

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Thank you so much for the insight guys and also for the quick responses.

Dollara the level of detail in your response sealed the deal, I owe you a cold beer if ever we cross paths!. There is no substitute for experience and straight talk!

I assume if the panniers are ok that the top case must be good too so its likely Ill order that along with the bag liners (thanks jwhuls).

Cant wait to get the bike home, the weather here is finally getting warm and I'm pumped about the road ahead.

Regards to All
 

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I will concur with Dallara on the quality of the OEM panniers. I have had mine since I got the bike in 2011 and they have served me well. When properly handled and operated they work great. I also use the inner liners which are very nice for longer trips, and the OEM top case as well. I sometimes wish that they had latches that could be left unlocked If I so desired, but that is really a nitpick IMO. I also think they look great on the bike and the mounting bars are unobtrusive when the bags are off.

Just adding my $.02


Steve ::022:: ::001::
 

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jwhuls said:
I like them. The key can be tricky but its what makes them so good and you get used to it. I have taken a hit on both sides now. Leaving very little damage.

Get the soft bags for the inside. It makes a nice removable travel case
I never got used to the downright crappy locks on these cases and I don't think it makes them good in anyway. I would say the lock mechanism is the worst single part of the case and a deal breaker after owning a set. I do agree with the getting the liners they are a great product the boxes themselves are crap due to the locks. You also have to push down hard when closing or the lock will not latch completely, it will appear to be latched but isn't.

If you don't need a ton of capacity Happy-trail.com has a large selection of boxes in different sizes to fit the Tenere. The only issue with Happy Trails boxes is they are not easily removable, they are either bolted on or you can use a handwheel which takes up a lot of space in the bags.
 

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Like many above... I have the full set of OEM luggage. If you take all the steps outlined here in various posts to ensure the locks are installed correctly, be proactive in keeping them in tip-top shape, and follow the tips on proper operation - they are a very good product. However, I take them for what they are - not a premium product. I do like how they fit higher up and further back on the bike than the HT's I had on my last bike such that I worry less about a broken ankle in case I need to dab a foot down. I have never had a leak and I concur on the liner bags. I added some footman loops to the lids for extra lash points which should have come from the factory.
 

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XtreemLee said:
I never got used to the downright crappy locks on these cases and I don't think it makes them good in anyway. I would say the lock mechanism is the worst single part of the case and a deal breaker after owning a set. I do agree with the getting the liners they are a great product the boxes themselves are crap due to the locks. You also have to push down hard when closing or the lock will not latch completely, it will appear to be latched but isn't.

"Push down hard when closing..."?!?!? ::)

It only takes a light pressure down on the lids to lock or unlock them. If that kind of pressure seems hard to you... Well, maybe it's not the locks, lids, or spring-loaded buttons, Lee. ::025::

Just out of curiosity - was your 2012 Super Tenere a black one? Was your pronunciation description of it "Waven Bwack Thuper Thenere"? ;)

Dallara
 

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I thought I'd add my two cents. I currently have an 05 Vstrom with the newer Jesse bags and the ST with yammi bags. Yammi bags are lighter and easier to take on and off even though I have the adjustable Jesse's. Having both, I like the yammi bags for how they fit, look, and perform on the bike. I would like having the Jesse's if I was headed around the world and needed repairable tough cases. Having said that, if I was going to the Continental Divide ride again on large adventure tourer, I'd be riding with soft bags! I have no problems with the keys and locks once you understand how they work and it's great have one key.

Hope that helps!

Ken
 

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Dallara said:
People bitch a lot about the locks, but honestly, if they are assembled carefully and you learn to operate the locks correctly then they function flawlessly. At least mine have for nearly 40-K miles and they are on the bike literally all the time, being opened and closed numerous times per day of riding. Pre-lube your lock cylinders with a *PROPER* plastic-safe lock lubricant, make sure you loctite and properly torques the screws holding the locks together when first assembled, and learn to press down on the lid when locking or unlocking the cases. That's all it takes.
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Dallara said:
Just out of curiosity - was your 2012 Super Tenere a black one? Was your pronunciation description of it "Waven Bwack Thuper Thenere"? ;)

Dallara
Mine was blue and I pronounced it "effoffuoldcoot"...
 

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See my post about installing the side cases on the ES. Make sure you get up to date instructions. I had the factory cases on my 13 and rode about 8200 miles last year and had no problems other than one didn't seem to seal out dust but never any water. They are very convenient and with the liners they are great. I use a Givi trunk so I can't comment on the Yamaha top case.
 
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