Observations after seeing it at the show

[Buckeye56]

Inverted forks tend to be more rigid than conventional units. And possibly less prone to stiction. Plus they look kewl!

 

[GrahamD]

Does it matter much?

Generally speaking, the inverted forks have less moving mass. So when the wheel is trying to traverse bumpy bits (the technical term) it is more responsive and can follow the bumby bits more accurately giving increased traction. It also has less affect on the main chassis as less energy is transferred through the suspension. More braking power, better ABS action etc. This assumes of course that everything else is setup correctly. A badly set up IF can be outdone by a expertly set up normal fork. It's just better to start with generally.

Queue 450123 post thread...

Cheers
Graham

 

[GrahamD]

My only disappointment after sitting on a Super 10 at the SC IMS was seat comfort. A few reviews have praised seat comfort saying no after-market seat should be needed for all day rides, for me thats 10 - 12 hours. Granted comfort is subjective to who's backside is doing the subjecting and I only sat on it for a few minutes, but the Sergeant seat on my KLR is waayyyyy more backside friendly. Hopefully my mind will change after thorough testing on my S10.

A person in Aus. made the observation that the seat is comfy in leather pants (with or without beaks) but tended to grip textile a bit too well, giving that wedgie feeling when trying to move around. I already wear leather (without the beak) so that is a plus.

Maybe just see how it goes. One mains painful seat is an others cushion.

Cheers
Graham

 

[20valves]

...beaks...

:question: :question: :question:

 

[colorider]

:question: :question: :question:

Yes, beaks! In case you don't remember the picture that was posted here a week or so ago of the leather pants with an oversize crotch (beak, if you will).............

;D

 

[ptfjjj]

Yes, beaks! In case you don't remember the picture that was posted here a week or so ago of the leather pants with an oversize crotch (beak, if you will).............

;D

Dang! And I had forgotten about that image. ???

 

[JonnyCinco]

I think the bigger question is what is the true value-add of SS lines? I believe they limit expansion hence providing more precise braking. However, has this expansion coefficient ever truly been measured and shown to be detectable in real-world use?

real world, personally, yep. I have noticed a difference in lever feel and mobility when switching to SS lines (i.e. not as much movement required to engage brakes, esp under heavy braking conditions).

I would imagine that one should upgrade their lines prior to doing any lever upgrade.

As for measured, I am sure there has been a study by some company showing the expansion of rubber vs steel....somewhere

 

[GrahamD]

I had SS lines on the SV. I compared them to the Standard lines from a few other peoples SV's. Yes there was a difference but I wouldn't be shelling out the money myself, unless I got them cheap. I can adapt. Just my take.

Cheers
Graham

 

[toompine]

Having raced with SS lines I can assure you that when you squeeze hard there is a difference in performance between rubber lines and SS lines, a very big difference. Now if you are not using great gobs of braking force you might not notice the difference but IMHO they are worth the money.

 

[elizilla]

There are more reasons to replace the brake lines, than just to upgrade them. For example, some folks install bar risers and have to replace the lines to get more length. And you're supposed to replace those rubber OEM lines every couple of years. Not that many people actually do that. But if you were going to replace them anyway, the aftermarket braided lines or both better and cheaper, so you win both ways.