MOTO Z TRACTIONATOR

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Shouldn't be any worse, if you feel like you are bending the iron, stop and try again.

Stiff sidewalls are less work than tubes. Maybe put the tire in the sun for an hour to warm it up first

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Steve Reno

I thought the first step after removing the wheel was put it on the ground, then you and your son pick up the picnic table and set the leg on the bead. Then get on top of the table and do some (bead) break dancing?

Am I close?
 
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ballisticexchris

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If you do it at home it's a simple procedure to break the bead with just tire irons. Wedge the iron in and spray lube as you work your way around the rim. It sometimes takes a few times around but it will always break loose. I got tired of the hassle so I have not only the Motion Pro's but also Eastbound bead breakers.

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I was able to get the Tractionator GPS tires installed on the rims using just tire irons. I really appreciate everyone input and advise and I ended up using a bunch of your ideas to get them mounted. Thanks a bunch guys!!!

I can really see where the Eastbound bead breaker would have been helpful for breaking the bead off the rim when removing the tires. Also helpful were using several short wooden dowels to help hold the bead down into the dish of the rim, while I worked on the opposite side of the wheel. Also very helpful was the tip to cut up an old plastic oil bottle and using the pieces as a rim protector. Not one scratch on the rims!

Thanks again for the helpful folks on this forum!

Heading out tomorrow for a nice ride and I cant wait to try out the tires.
 

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Steve Reno

I thought the first step after removing the wheel was put it on the ground, then you and your son pick up the picnic table and set the leg on the bead. Then get on top of the table and do some (bead) break dancing?

Am I close?


Or a side stand will do it.
 

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Thanks for sharing about some creative ideas for getting the bead broke on some wheels! Those are the kind of ideas that are really nice to keep in mind when you find yourself far from the comfort of your home shop and you need to get a job done using only what you have with you on the road.

Did a nice 250 mile ride today on some fun twisty back roads with the Tractionator GPS tires. Overall I am very happy with the tires from the ride I had today. I rode at a fairly brisk pace on some of the county highways and the tires never gave me any hint of worry. There was no perceived extra road noise from the tires. Looking forward to getting out on some gravel roads now as well as some fireroads and see how they handle those types of terrains.
 

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LUBE LUBE LUBE.... make sure you you use lots of lube, it makes your tyre change easier. I used a lot more lube on the Tractionator GPS tyre and smaller bites at levering it on. I had to really keep a eye on keeping the opposite side bead in the rim it just wants to spread and push the tyre back out even when using wood blocks
 

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Excellent point on the LUBE! I used windex since that is what I have always used on the dirtbike tires. What are you guys using for tire lube?

Also good point about the wooden blocks and to watch the opposite tire bead from where you are working.

Speaking of rim protectors, what are you folks using for a good rim protector? I used the plastic from a discarded oil container and that seemed to work reasonably well. I did have to fold them over to make them 2 layers thick to protect the rim.
 
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I have used a few different brands of tire lube but highly prefer the No-Mar stuff. I happened to be riding through St Louis once and stopped at their shop to buy it for a very reasonable price.
 

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I just use a bit of dish soap and water, low tech but always available

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Dish soap will ruin your wheels and cause leaks. I guess "ruin" is kind of a harsh term, but that soap is not good sitting there on rubber bead to aluminum. We all used soap in the old days on steel wheels but best to use a lube made for the job. So many times over the years I've read complaints of "I put on new tires last year and they lose pressure". Many things can cause this of course, but 50% of time soap tire lube to blame. Minimize risk of leaking tires by using tire lube is my advice. On top of that, the guys complain about impossible to seat the bead, most are not using correct lube. Nomar lube, my tires always fill without issue and seat both beads with 25lb or less pressure.
Just my advice. 45yrs of doing my own tire changes I've kind of learned things, mostly the hard way.
 

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Had my local independent Harley man mount a Tractionator today. $30 with dyna beads. He has mounted 4 rear tires and not put a scratch on my rim. The E07 Dakar had 12K miles on it and wasn't slick.IMG_0547.JPG
 

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Thanks for the bead lube suggestions. I will give that No-Mar stuff a shot the next time I put my own tires on.

About the dyna beads, do they help with balancing the wheel?

How balanced are these tires from the factory? I did not notice a 'red or any circular dot' that is typically on a tire that shows where to line it up with the valve stem. My rear tire had a white number on the sidewall where I used that to line up with the valve stem. No idea if that was intended by the manufacturer or not? I have had the bike upto 80 or so and there were no vibrations.

Thanks again for all the help and suggestions.
 
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ballisticexchris

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Thanks for the bead lube suggestions. I will give that No-Mar stuff a shot the next time I put my own tires on.

About the dyna beads, do they help with balancing the wheel?

How balanced are these tires from the factory? I did not notice a 'red or any circular dot' that is typically on a tire that shows where to line it up with the valve stem. My rear tire had a white number on the sidewall where I used that to line up with the valve stem. No idea if that was intended by the manufacturer or not? I have had the bike up to 80 or so and there were no vibrations.

Thanks again for all the help and suggestions.
My Anakee Wilds took something like 1oz front and 1/2 oz rear. I have not tried the Dyna beads. I did use the RideOn sealant in my Beta tubes. It did not work worth a crap at high speeds. When I was training for my Iron Butt, even with my Steering Damper I was beat up after about 300 miles. I went to old fashion wheel weights.

There is a member here that uses the RideOn in his Super Tenere tires and swears by it. I'm actually thinking of giving RideOn or DynaBeads a try on the beast. It might be the hot ticket seeing it's tubeless and no rim lock.
 
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RonH

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Despite all the guys that swear Dyna Beads or Ride On stuff works, I still go by logic. Is there any way in this world beads or any form of liquid can possibly flock to the light part of a tire to balance it? To me the answer using my brain at least says no way. Most the time on a motorcycle at least, the tire can be mounted and whether balanced or not, most will not feel $0.02 worth of differance the vast majority of the time, and those that say they get no cupping with beads where before the tires always cupped? I call balony.
I like balancing my tires because I bought the weights and the Marc Parnes balancer that works real nice, but for like 400,000 miles I never did any balancing and can't say I feel any difference.
 
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