Jesse Luggage for the Super Tenere

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Grabs rails or the lack of them.

On my Ktm 990 the Happy Trails bag mounting system removes the passenger grab rails. I have 40,000 km of travel on my 990 and never missed them, until I had to find them :D to mount the narrower (for lane spitting) Jesse bags I just bought for Europe.

I never had a problem lifting the bike on to the centre stand, Tying down luggage, or giving my passenger something to hang on to. I am pretty confident that the bags Al is making for the S-10 will be just fine.

I think before people start visualizing mass returns, unsuitable design, and other such things might just wait until a few of us have actually got our S-10's mounted the Jesses and travelled with them.
 

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toompine said:
The tops are also the same height as the pillion seat. I was considering running without the seat and using the low rack position to creat a storage platform but that would put the top cases above that platform.
As far as I can tell from the pic, they are only an inch or two higher than the rear rack. When the bike is set up with the storage platform instead of the pillion seat, it's level with the rear rack. I would bet there's enough flexibility in the design to allow for higher or lower pannier placement. So... if that's the case, you'd have to decide on where you want it at the time of mounting.

If there was no downside (ie loss of ground clearance) I think I'd be mounting low. That way weight is carried a bit lower and I have the option of making full use of the platform if required.

But then again none of that may be possible and I'm talking out my arse! :D
 

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Received this from Xplorermoto yesterday:
Vince, as I hear it, Jesse is designing new grab handles to replace the stock units. They will be billet alumnium ILO of the plastic stock ones. As you can see in the attached pic, the bags are pretty much even with the pass. seat. These pics are not of the finished product, as Al is still tweaking the system.


Sorry I can't get the image to post.
 

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Of all the bag systems I have seen so far, I like the Jesses best because they are tight with the rear. Most of the other bags look like they are "add-ons."

When I bought my GSA, everyone said what crap bags the BMW Adventure set were... but I bought a set used and I loved them... and I loved one key to operate everything on the bike. I'm considering the Yammie.. but I have a months to decide.

Hope Jesse can post up the "full Monty" soon.

Lisa
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damianxt12 said:
If the make the grab rails I will get them!!!!!

They look exellent on the ST12!

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I was wandering around the Hepco Becker site and beside the cool headlight protector, they have a grab handle specifically made for hoisting a bike onto the center stand listed for the Tenere. So if you can live without the grab rails, there is an option out there. I still haven't heard back from the folks in Arizona, I asked for more pix, and more info.

Don
 

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Hope I don't get my self in trouble, but I thought I'd chime in with a couple of quick thoughts here...

One, if memory serves correctly the S-10 has some tie down points on either side of the rear platform area (or rear seat if you have it on) separate from the rear passenger grab rails. In other words, there are points to tie bags down on the rear area even if the grab rails are removed.

Two, and this is the one that's going to cause some controversy... But if you are trying to *LIFT* your bike onto the centerstand then you are doing something wrong. Even the heaviset bikes can literally be *jumped up* onto the centerstand, by the lightest and least stout people, without having to lift a thing. I was taught by an old, old hand the proper method when I was real young, and later when I was a Honda dealer used to demonstrate how to do it for Gold Wing customers - some who were literally scared of the centerstand because they were trying to *lift* the bike up - how to get a fully decked out Wing onto the centerstand *WITHOUT* using my right hand... Just my left hand on the left handlebar.

The trick is to *STAND DOWN* on the centerstand lever. That's actually why it's bent and angled the way it is on most bikes, to provide the necessary leverage to *lift* the bike up onto the centerstand. Certainly, it takes a bit of practice, and some confidence it works, but works it does. If you have a bike with a centerstand go out and try the following...

For your first time get the bike in neutral where the wheels are lined up and the bike can roll freely forward and backward. Place your left hand on the left handgrip and your right hand somewhere slightly aft of a line up from the centerstand pivot. For your first few times it helps if it is an area you can *LIGHTLY* grasp (not to lift hard). Face the left side of the motorcycle, place your left foot just in front of the line of the centerstand pivot, and use your right foot to rotate the centerstand down. Get *BOTH* pads of the centerstand on the ground and hold a bit of pressure with your right foot to keep it there. Make sure the wheels are aligned and then raise you body slightly and then as you start to come back down *STAND DOWN* firmly on the centerstand footpad/tang. You will notice the bike is rolling backward as this is happening, and you should help this along easily by pulling gently backwards with both your left hand on the bars and your right hand on wherever you have decided to grab, but don't *lift*... You don't need to.

It will feel awkward at first if you are used to grunting and straining to lift the bike onto the stand, but trust me... Keep working at it, thinking all the time of *STANDING DOWN* onto the centerstand, not lifting up. One time you'll get it and the bike will literally fly up onto the centerstand, and you'll be wondering what happened it will do it so fast and easy.

Once that happens you'll be snapping your bike up there more often than you ever did, and pondering why you fought it so much all that time. And once you get the hang of it you'll be putting the heaviest, most laden motorcycles up onto their centerstands with both hands on the handgrips, and with the ease of flipping down the sidestand.

Give it a try... And once you get it you'll never have to worry about grab handles, etc. again when it comes to using your centerstand.

Dallara




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Dallara said:
Two, and this is the one that's going to cause some controversy... But if you are trying to *LIFT* your bike onto the centerstand then you are doing something wrong.
I pretty much agree with this, except to say that SOME centerstands are poorly designed and the bike doesn't come up as easily as it should. Fortunately this is NOT the case with the Super Tenere, comes up real easy, and speaking as someone who has Jesses on order, I'm not the least bit worried about losing the grab handles if it saves me 2" (or more - Jesses are up to 6" narrower than some popular setups) in overall width.

Trevor
 

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Nice write up Dallara I agree with you 110% I believe the grab rails are for the passenger only not for putting the bike on the center stand. My old Hondas and Kawasaki's had no grab rails if I remember correctly. Defiantly wont put me off buying the Jesse bags but the price will. Up my way $1600...
 

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Is there going to be a matching top case for this set? Does it need a mounting bracket? The stick rack looks a little flimsy to have one of the standard top cases.
 

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Yes the Jesse top box will work but there's no Jesse rack for it yet. Heard that he'll be working on one once the bikes get here. I don't see why the topbox wouldn't work on some other rack though, like the Altrider one or something.
 

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I still cant decide between the Jesse bags and Micatech. The Jesse bags will be about $500 more up my way. The Jesse bags are 105 Liters and a total mounted width of 35.5". Micatech 37 liters and 45 liters for a total 82 liters and total mounted width is 36.5". I did have the Jesse bags on my wee, nice bags but a pain when you have the seat loaded and you need to get into the box. I like the idea of the side loading Micatech bags with the roof racks.
 

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I too have been one of the many "undecided's" Never have had big cases (the Multistrada side cases were shaped and smallish, not like these giant crates we are all looking at. So go cheap and try the boxes and if I don't like them no big loss? Go BIG and spend the farm on a set? Ride around for a while and decide? How big is enough, how big is too much? Too big and there is side clearance issues (Zegas are like 39" wide!) cause I lane split here in Ca. Too small and regret it. Too big and carry too much stuff. Soooooooo many possibilites and we have not even talked about Pelicans, soft bags or Big Loop bags.

Man some of these are approaching 2 grand all in with taxes and shipping. I can buy another vintage two stroke for the cost of these cases!!

But I am drifting toward the Jesse's because they are only 34 1/2" in 101 liters. Very tidy looking and nice mounts. I am drawn Walter Mitty style to the boxes, sort of the "adventure" statement I may need to make even though the Pelicans are bombproof and were my first choice (as well as a lot cheaper).

Likely will all depend on how much money is available. Any chance/interest in a group buy for the Jesse's
 

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toompine said:
Too big and carry too much stuff.
I have always felt that luggage is like a house.........

You expand to the space available!!!

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Actually the Jesse's are 105 Liters and 35.5" wide according to Xplorermoto web site ....
 

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limey said:
Actually the Jesse's are 105 Liters and 35.5" wide according to Xplorermoto web site ....
Bigger and wider....do these bags make my butt look fat :D
 

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toompine said:
Likely will all depend on how much money is available. Any chance/interest in a group buy for the Jesse's
I am pretty well decided on the Jesse's, so I would be interested in a group buy depending on the timing of it. I don't yet have all the funds for them! :(
 

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Except for deciding on the color of pannier to go on the faster black S10, I'm ready to order and would be very much interested in a group buy.

Any photochop experts tried the different colors on the bikes?

Thanks in advance,

Lisa
 

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I'd go in for a group buy as well. Safari or OdysseyII? So far their web site only lists the OdysseyII for the Tenere...
 
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