Is the GS1250 the reason?

[Purificator81]

Hi,

My apologies for the title. I was wondering if anyone recently moved from an S10 to a GS1250...what is it like as a change? Regrets? Happier? Both?
I still own my 2012 one but not sure if it us time to change....kind of happy with it...the reason why I thought about change us that suddenly I felt old! People are talking about TFT screens, integrated GPS stuff, shifterpro, hill descent control (?), 7 modes of riding (Street, highway, sport, enduro, enduro pro, dynamic etc..), dynamic suspension control, you have now even the record of the degree of your cornering and bike inclinaison, variable valve stuff...and of course this is only about the bike...I add to it gears such as 700 usd boots, 1200 usd dedicated adventure suit, 300 usd gloves, 1000 usd gps unit that you can control from the handlerbar buttons (how you look for a new POI while driving???) Etc...

I ride my 2012, with a nuvi 760 gps that never made me upgrade, I ride on my leather jacket and AA rated jeans even on offroad and never felt the need for something else...I do keep a raincover in my topcase just in case...and I do have a signet Q helmet that I use everywhere because of the long oval head shape that limits my choices...

Anyway just wanted to share the above in case I am getting too old or too outdated or too out of the today's riding community...

Cheers

 

[yoyo]

I am considering the same swap but to a GSA rather than a GS. There is no reason other than I fancy a change and like you I'd like a TFT and some other toys. Those toys can and do go wrong but I think I can live with the risk.

The trouble is I keep riding the S10 then wonder why I am bothering as its a great bike, reliable I've spent time and money getting it how I like it.

Have you test ridden the GS? If not I'd definitely give it a go, the engine is a peach and the slow speed handling is something else.

If I could afford to have both I'd keep my S10 for the bike training and winter riding and the GSA for fun and touring but sadly that's not an option.

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[MattR]

Sounds like it’s time for you to hang up your boots friend. The only things you need to remember are:
1. Gadgets are good
2. BMWs are bad
3. Number of gadgets / BMW -5 x S10+5


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[yoyo]

So given the choice I can ride an S10 or give up riding? Nice!

I've spent the last 5 days training advanced instructors to become DVSA ERS tutors, there's 12 on the course, 2 S10's, 2 KTM's and 8 BMW's the oldest being a 2014 with 50k on it and none of them have had any issues.


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[Purificator81]

I am considering the same swap but to a GSA rather than a GS. There is no reason other than I fancy a change and like you I'd like a TFT and some other toys. Those toys can and do go wrong but I think I can live with the risk.

The trouble is I keep riding the S10 then wonder why I am bothering as its a great bike, reliable I've spent time and money getting it how I like it.

Have you test ridden the GS? If not I'd definitely give it a go, the engine is a peach and the slow speed handling is something else.

If I could afford to have both I'd keep my S10 for the bike training and winter riding and the GSA for fun and touring but sadly that's not an option.

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I did test a 2016 one and it felt smooth...that's it...though I felt unbalanced at the beginning as I was too much used to the narrow style of the S10...

I really can afford keeping my S10 and get a GS or GSA but I am kind of utilitarian somehow and things have to make sense for me before pulling the trigger....all these electronics and options, modes etc...feels like a headache to manage before riding....

 

[Purificator81]

Sounds like it’s time for you to hang up your boots friend. The only things you need to remember are:
1. Gadgets are good
2. BMWs are bad
3. Number of gadgets / BMW -5 x S10+5


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I am 40....still plenty of miles ahead! Not ready to hang up my boots...may be I was too much focused on actually riding instead of following trends hence this sudden wake up call

 

[Boris]

Some gadgets are useful and are there due to advances in technology, some are necessary, some are probably heading toward novelty and trends. It’s up to you to choose which is needed and which is wanted. I too have a Gen1 Super Tenere and enjoy it, it does all that I ask from it. I would however like, cruise, a gear shifter, integrated sat nav, perhaps ES and keyless. Other stuff I’m not fussed about. For the past 20 years I’ve had 2 bikes, a Caponord and my current bike, I’m hardly a trend follower, but I also don’t see stuff I don’t have as pointless, unnecessary or unreliable. It’s not rubbish because I don’t or can’t have it.

Go test ride a current model and if it ticks the boxes for you, spoil yourself, enjoy it and put that new bike grin on your face. KTM is calling me, like the GS is calling you, but so is the new Suzuki sports tourer……….decisions!

best of luck with your new bike, should you do it!

 

[sheikyerbooty]

sacriledge and heresy. i smell a witch

seriously though, saw a couple of GSA's on the road yesterday...beautiful looking machines.

If you can afford it, go for it. you only live once!

 

[Purificator81]

Some gadgets are useful and are there due to advances in technology, some are necessary, some are probably heading toward novelty and trends. It’s up to you to choose which is needed and which is wanted. I too have a Gen1 Super Tenere and enjoy it, it does all that I ask from it. I would however like, cruise, a gear shifter, integrated sat nav, perhaps ES and keyless. Other stuff I’m not fussed about. For the past 20 years I’ve had 2 bikes, a Caponord and my current bike, I’m hardly a trend follower, but I also don’t see stuff I don’t have as pointless, unnecessary or unreliable. It’s not rubbish because I don’t or can’t have it.

Go test ride a current model and if it ticks the boxes for you, spoil yourself, enjoy it and put that new bike grin on your face. KTM is calling me, like the GS is calling you, but so is the new Suzuki sports tourer……….decisions!

best of luck with your new bike, should you do it!

Trust me, I really don't see these features as pointless or useless but I am wondering how useful can they be...for instance, controlling the gps from the handlebar while riding, I find the idea dangerous...
Quickshift: I ride for the pleasure and not speed...but I see the point of using this for fun
Cruisecontrol: I agree it is useful hence I did nit list it...
TFT: it is vivid, colorful and pleasant for the eye... I just hope it won't break especially that everything in the bike has to be done though it...

I two had only two bikes in the past 12 years...a versys 650 and the 2012 S10...old school you would say ) but I had the best memories with them

I will see if I can test drive a recent gs1250 to get a feel of it....

 

[MileageMonster]

Gadgets, to camouflage the lack of skills? Let’s talk about reliability…
You can find the Bavarian Money Waste on the 8th place!
Lot of former owners Complain about the ghost in the machine.
Quite a few actual owners too, by the way. Very costly bikes to maintain.
However I am not trying to convince anyone of anything, just sharing research…
(And absolutely not just the attached site, dig a bit yourself, it pays off…)

8 Most Reliable Motorcycle Brands Ranked - Monimoto US

 

[Cycledude]

Would you like paying for insurance on 2 bikes ?

 

[fac191]

Some gadgets are useful and are there due to advances in technology, some are necessary, some are probably heading toward novelty and trends. It’s up to you to choose which is needed and which is wanted. I too have a Gen1 Super Tenere and enjoy it, it does all that I ask from it. I would however like, cruise, a gear shifter, integrated sat nav, perhaps ES and keyless. Other stuff I’m not fussed about. For the past 20 years I’ve had 2 bikes, a Caponord and my current bike, I’m hardly a trend follower, but I also don’t see stuff I don’t have as pointless, unnecessary or unreliable. It’s not rubbish because I don’t or can’t have it.

Go test ride a current model and if it ticks the boxes for you, spoil yourself, enjoy it and put that new bike grin on your face. KTM is calling me, like the GS is calling you, but so is the new Suzuki sports tourer……….decisions!

best of luck with your new bike, should you do it!

That Suzuki looks like a great bike.

 

[bimota]

Some gadgets are useful and are there due to advances in technology, some are necessary, some are probably heading toward novelty and trends. It’s up to you to choose which is needed and which is wanted. I too have a Gen1 Super Tenere and enjoy it, it does all that I ask from it. I would however like, cruise, a gear shifter, integrated sat nav, perhaps ES and keyless. Other stuff I’m not fussed about. For the past 20 years I’ve had 2 bikes, a Caponord and my current bike, I’m hardly a trend follower, but I also don’t see stuff I don’t have as pointless, unnecessary or unreliable. It’s not rubbish because I don’t or can’t have it.

Go test ride a current model and if it ticks the boxes for you, spoil yourself, enjoy it and put that new bike grin on your face. KTM is calling me, like the GS is calling you, but so is the new Suzuki sports tourer……….decisions!

best of luck with your new bike, should you do it!

my mate just put his 1 yr old hayabusa in for the 1000cc gt suzuki with luggage nice looking bike

rob

 

[Purificator81]

Would you like paying for insurance on 2 bikes ?

Depending on usage...could do a 3 months insurance for one and the next 3 months insurance for the other...this is if I don't want to pay 500 usd all year insurance for both...again it is really not about money but more about whether such move would make sense...
My S10 is the trust worthy wife that sometimes can be boring but super reliable everyday and takes care of everything without spending money on useless stuff...the GS1250 is like a pol dancer that is attracting but I am afraid it might be a one night act and a whole of sad stories afterwards....

 

[MileageMonster]

Probably exactly the case…

 

[Wallkeeper]

There is a point where features become gratuitous and a waste of money.. most of the BMW riders I know do not use the majority of the features available. if it is not used why pay for it?

they sure are sexy looking though…for now

 

[Strummer]

You know the reason why I chose the S10 was.... well the then new BMW 1250...
I took my brother in law to a BMW dealer ( he ended up with a r 1250 r, not my style but a beautiful bike...) and He asked if there was a BMW to try for me...
I did not expect so I was very excited and I really really like the bike...
As I was on the market for a new bike myself I had my eyes on a new tracer 900 but after I tried the BMW I thought: well why don't give the S10 a chance?
That was it , I test drove it and I knew I had found my bike..
Now I will probably make a bunch of enemies but I personally think the BMW is a superior bike than mine.
The point, at least for me, was and still is: do I need all those things?
Personally ,and it's just me, I don't need them now but in the future who knows?
Hope you find your way and in the worst scenario you still have a good bike after all....

 

[Purificator81]

You know the reason why I chose the S10 was.... well the then new BMW 1250...
I took my brother in law to a BMW dealer ( he ended up with a r 1250 r, not my style but a beautiful bike...) and He asked if there was a BMW to try for me...
I did not expect so I was very excited and I really really like the bike...
As I was on the market for a new bike myself I had my eyes on a new tracer 900 but after I tried the BMW I thought: well why don't give the S10 a chance?
That was it , I test drove it and I knew I had found my bike..
Now I will probably make a bunch of enemies but I personally think the BMW is a superior bike than mine.
The point, at least for me, was and still is: do I need all those things?
Personally ,and it's just me, I don't need them now but in the future who knows?
Hope you find your way and in the worst scenario you still have a good bike after all....

Your response kept me smiling for a while...I kind of saw myself in what you were describing....I had that connection with my S10...I might be overemphasizing reliability but really the bike was (and still is) the trust worthy buddy in good and bad days...everywhere...in the simplest manner with a great focus on riding...while aging together...

And the point of wall keeper is also very valid...I don't want to be busy with so many gadgets...I want to be busy looking at the sceneries and riding while knowing that I need to put gas, change oil and go....

 

[Strummer]

One of the reason I like the S10 is the she is " old school " for lack of better words.
You still have to "ride" it.
Once I got off the BMW I thought " wow what a bike" .
Then I realized , no offense to BMW riders/owner, anyone can drive this Beast very fast/ skilfully...
Where is the joy/ fun on it?
I like to think of myself like a evolved knight on his horse...
Unfortunately English it ain't my first language so I would to describe it better but I guess you guys will get what I tried to say...

 

[Sierra1]

Nobody here will argue Yamaha's reliability record. Nobody will argue that as far as "new & exciting features", Yamaha does lag behind. Where the arguments start is when we try to determine if all those features are worth it. We can't even agree on what's the best oil . . . . how do we expect to agree on what the best bike is?

IF I were to leave Yamaha, it would be for the Tiger. I've always liked the looks, and the '23 apparently has been greatly improved. I will never have a Beemer. I've never had to have a vehicle with all the "bells & whistles". (I had to special order my Jeep to get one without all those features) Grip heaters, cruise control, and e-suspension is as fancy as I need/want in a bike. I'm too busy trying not to get ran over to be paying attention to a TFT screen.

But, if you want something different . . . . go ride one. If you don't, you'll always be wondering if you're missing something. Absolutely nothing wrong with making an educated decision. Good hunting.