Is insurance cheaper for a dual sport???

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I'm hoping my bike ins will go even lower now that I'm moving from a 1800cc to a 1200cc but my question is do ins companies ding you for owning a bike that can go off road posing a bigger risk to rider, pasenger and bike? When I was looking at a KLR 650 months ago I was quoted 150.00 a year full coverage which I thought was a great deal!
 

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pqsqac said:
I'm hoping my bike ins will go even lower now that I'm moving from a 1800cc to a 1200cc but my question is do ins companies ding you for owning a bike that can go off road posing a bigger risk to rider, pasenger and bike? When I was looking at a KLR 650 months ago I was quoted 150.00 a year full coverage which I thought was a great deal!
I'm sure it depends on the insurance company, but most US insurance is graded strictly by engine size. A few others put sportbikes in a high-risk category. I haven't seen anyone surcharge dual-sports, but insurance companies move in strange ways.

Read the fine print though - there may be no coverage if you're off road or they may require a police report for claims above a certain limit. Personally, I wouldn't be depending on insurance to fix the routine/everyday bumps and bruises that an off-road bike picks up when used in the bush. A claim or two and you'd find your rates going into the stratosphere if you could get insurance at all. Not cost effective long term.

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pqsqac said:
I'm hoping my bike ins will go even lower now that I'm moving from a 1800cc to a 1200cc but my question is do ins companies ding you for owning a bike that can go off road posing a bigger risk to rider, pasenger and bike? When I was looking at a KLR 650 months ago I was quoted 150.00 a year full coverage which I thought was a great deal!
I don't think they are, but there was a thread here a while back where others had checked with their insurance agents and some had found that the SuperT was classified as a sport bike, which did raise the rates.
 

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Yes, to revisit that discussion, I checked with Foremost, who have given me great rates since switching to them from State Farm two years ago. They have our bikes classified as high performance bikes and are in the highest rate category. I had them check on the category of a GS1200 and it was in a lower rate class. About a month ago, I called Yamaha Customer Service and suggested they try to get some sort of message to the insurance underwriters to explain that it is not a high performance sport bike.

Recently I did an online quote request for Progressive Insurance. It didn't ask for the model number and since I didn't have a VIN, I had to choose what category it would be in. I chose dual prupose bike, with 1200 cc engine. It came back with a very low price, under $200 per year. I got an email response and I asked for assurances that this new 1200 dual purpose bike would be that low and was told it was. At this point I will attempt to do more shopping and then when I have a VIN I can either send that to Foremost while I do some shopping for better rates, or may have time to secure a better rate thru another company, including submitting that VIN to Progressive. Your dealer will have your VIN when he gets notice of shipment.

By the way, in my experience dual purpose bikes have much better rates than high performance sport bikes. An example is that my 2008 KLR 650 is less than half the rate as my 1998 Super Hawk. The SuperTen is classified in the same class as the Super Hawk by Foremost's underwriter at this point.
 

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fredz43 said:
About a month ago, I called Yamaha Customer Service and suggested they try to get some sort of message to the insurance underwriters to explain that it is not a high performance sport bike.
Thanks for looking into this, Fred. Is there any way that you can contact your regional Yamaha rep about this? It seems like the designation is flawed at the manufacturer level, and once we all get the bikes and need to insure them, we will all be paying sport bike rates. You can bet that once you provide the VIN to progressive, your rate quote will change.
 

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If the bike is categorized as a Dual sport it will be reasonable. I doubt we will get a real answer until it starts shipping. My Multistrada is classed as a DS and is as cheap as my DR650.
 

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I had checked with the Foremost company, and they classified the S10 as a performance bike. Also talked with State Farm and
Geico, who both listed it as a sport bike.

My dealer spoke with his Yamaha rep and hopefully that may help. Like another poster said, we'll just have to wait and see.
 

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japako said:
Also talked with State Farm and Geico, who both listed it as a sport bike.
Hmmm, when I talked to my State Farm agent back during the original thread, there was never a discussion of how the SuperT was "rated", only what the expected rates would be. His preliminary estimate was slightly more than what I am paying for my FJR. I expected this due to it being a 4 year newer bike, but perhaps this also means that it was in the same rating structure as the FJR as well.
 

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colorider said:
Hmmm, when I talked to my State Farm agent back during the original thread, there was never a discussion of how the SuperT was "rated", only what the expected rates would be. His preliminary estimate was slightly more than what I am paying for my FJR. I expected this due to it being a 4 year newer bike, but perhaps this also means that it was in the same rating structure as the FJR as well.
I'm skeptical that State Farm goes by anything but displacement (and bike value for collision/comp), but I don't know for sure. I'm paying approximately the same rates for S1000RR and a FJR, the S1000RR a bit more for coll/comp but that makes sense since its worth 2.5x more. Only slightly less for a DL650.

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markjenn said:
I'm skeptical that State Farm goes by anything but displacement (and bike value for collision/comp), but I don't know for sure. I'm paying approximately the same rates for S1000RR and a FJR, the S1000RR a bit more for coll/comp but that makes sense since its worth 2.5x more. Only slightly less for a DL650.

- Mark
Yeah, the only questions I have been asked over the years on ANY bike has been "does it have a turbo", "where is it parked at night" and the question of accessories.
 

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markjenn said:
I'm skeptical that State Farm goes by anything but displacement (and bike value for collision/comp), but I don't know for sure. I'm paying approximately the same rates for S1000RR and a FJR, the S1000RR a bit more for coll/comp but that makes sense since its worth 2.5x more. Only slightly less for a DL650.

- Mark
My 1100 is nearly the same as my DR650 with State Farm. One goes 130mph and the other 90.
 

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My 2007 VSTrom 1000 was under the category of Sport-Bike with State Farm. I will be shopping soon since state farm offers no medical coverage while on a motorcycle. Just an FYI.
 

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My experience with State Farm has been that engine size is the only criteria other than age of the operator. The S10 and a ZX12 fall into the same category.
 

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HoebSTer said:
My 2007 VSTrom 1000 was under the category of Sport-Bike with State Farm. I will be shopping soon since state farm offers no medical coverage while on a motorcycle. Just an FYI.
What's your reasoning behind separate medical coverage on the bike? For most, it is a duplication of insurance they already have with their health insurance.

- Mark
 
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