Is anyone using 10w-30 oil?
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Nikolajsen
"Keep it simple"
My trip yesterday was in similar temp ;-)
And still just for fun
And still just for fun
scott123007
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It's not the viscosity as much as the additives you have to watch out for with any oil. Some 10w-30 oils have the "energy conserving" label on them. If that is the case, you will fry your clutch plates in short order if you use it. Another point to note is the extreme pressure that transmission gear teeth pose on oil (shearing). Specific motorcycle oils have higher levels of phosphorous and zinc to combat this. An advantage of diesel oil over conventional auto oil is its higher zinc levels. Not as much as MC oils, but more than auto oil.
John Ha
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My owners manual has a notice on page 7-15 that says "In order to prevent clutch slippage (since engine oil also lubricates the clutch), do not mix any chemical additives. Do not use oils with a Diesel specification of "CD" or oils of a higher quality than specified. In addition, do not use oils labelled 'ENERGY CONSERVING II' or higher." Section 9 of my manual also says that 10-40 is the minimum viscosity. This is for a 2016. Your manuals may vary.
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Wrathchild
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I don't know, maybe the Rotella stuff isn't a CD spec? No idea. I can say that I have run it for 10s of thousands of miles in multiple bikes with no problems and I know guys into the 6 figures mile wise that have run it exclusively with no problems. *shrug*
gv550
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Be careful, I suggested a few years ago that CD rated Rotella oil isn't recommended for these bikes, and I about got linched!
No worries, Yamaha only designs and builds the bikes, what would they know about oil?.
RCinNC
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As long as the oil carries the JASO certification of MA/MA2, it's safe to use in a wet clutch engine (as far as the clutch itself goes), even if the oil is being marketed towards the diesel market. The CD and CD-II ratings for oil are obsolete, and have been superseded by the CF, CH, CI and CJ series of ratings. I don't know if the same additives in the CD rated oils are still present in the superseded oils, but Rotella T4 15W-40 (which is what I've been using) doesn't carry the CD rating. It does carry the ratings for CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 and CH-4. If Rotella meets the JASO standard for a wet clutch engine, I have to assume that the CK, CJ, CL and CH ratings won't create any issues with the wet clutch.
scott123007
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I think this is the real testament.
https://advrider.com/f/threads/the-400-000-mile-k3-dl1000-v-strom.1136108/
https://advrider.com/f/threads/the-400-000-mile-k3-dl1000-v-strom.1136108/
Wrathchild
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Man I would LOVE to get a bike that high but I have this pesky habit of changing bikes every 3 or 4 years tops and although I ride nearly every day all year, its mostly commuting and errandes due to time restrictions.
This time around I plan on going a lot longer because this was the bike I wanted to begin with when I decided I wanted a full size bike (at the time I only had my supermoto, amazing fun but not a great bike for 25+ mile rides lol.
Back to the situation at hand. I would buy some 20-50 wt oil and next oil change use one quart of the 10-30 and for the other 2.4 quarts use the 20-50wt oil. Repeat until all the 10-30 has been used... For me, living in Texas, I would do this in the winter during colder temps. Waste not, want not. Go ride.
Cycledude
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Thanks for posting the link ! Wow that’s a very interesting thread, he has put over 431,000 miles on a 1000 Suzuki V-Strom and recently bought a used Tenere and is loving it. I added it to my watch list.