Firefight911 said:
Been a while since I've updated this but ooh and aah I am loving this Ohlin's!!!!
I have the 1111-59/150 L2611 spring in and it is wonderful!!! I have to adjust my preload collar to add some base preload but it is light years ahead of the stock shock.
I am one happy camper!!!!
I'll give more setting numbers for compression and rebound after I adjust the preload collar and have a few more miles on this set up.
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We did some hose re-timing and didn't do a complete shock bleed with re-route on the initial install.avc8130 said:That reservoir hose routing sure is funky!
ac
I agree 100% about getting the function. Aftermarket suspension is AMAZING compared to stock.Firefight911 said:We did some hose re-timing and didn't do a complete shock bleed with re-route on the initial install.
I had to modify the stock route set up some to accommodate the reservoir and the fact that I have the Touratech luggage set up. The mounts impede the stock set up so we tweaked some to get it to work.
As it is much more important to get the function correct, the form can take a back seat until we are sure we have things functioning properly.
James with Super Plush Suspension Tabasco. Same guy I've been working with all along. Can't speak highly enough of his ability to create a suspension that works how you want it to. It's been a a dream to work with him and he's really re-awoken my passion for suspension tuning that I used to be so good at when I raced.
James has been a sounding board to create the characteristics that I want in my suspension based on what I ride and how I ride it. He isn't interested in cookie cuttering a suspension set up. He creates what you want and works with you to understand suspension dynamics and then how to change something to get there.
We have gone back and forth so many times on rate selection for front springs, air gap, oil weight, pitch balance, turn in, geometry, terrain, goals, numbers, etc. It's been a blast! And, my bike is so fun now compared to stock.
I can't wait to get the prepload collar wound up some so I can really get the sag spot on so I can finish the fine tuning for what I am after.
All the front suspension info is here...avc8130 said:I agree 100% about getting the function. Aftermarket suspension is AMAZING compared to stock.
Any details on the front? I'm playing that game right now. Although, I think you have AK-20s in there? Either way, the oil height/air gap will translate for those of us running stock based forks. Sag? Spring rate?
What do you about the preload collar "wound up"? What is holding you from setting proper sag?
ac
Glad to hear the initial impression is so good. The addition of some preload spacing on the shock should get us where we want to be on sag, and I think that is the best way forward rather than more spring rate. The increase should be as easy as adjusting the set position of the lock rings.
On the clickers both of those changes are fine if the feeling improves. You may like it back out at ten on compression once the sag is in the window and the shock is holding onto some more spring force.
As far as the forks are concerned I think we can make the setting as good as we need with the stock components at much lower cost. There will always be some finite improvement when using premium quality components like the Ohlins drop ins. I think in this application where we are not road racing the thing or running up against a design limitation in the stock forks we should be able to get that stock cartridge to do what we need it to do. Let us know when you want to move forward
Firefight911 said:You do not want to set the bike around the 30% usage. You would be better served to set the bike for the 70% usage and ten use the adjuster to off set the 30% usage.
You've got two issues with the bike - the front and the rear.
The front has a dual rate spring and is harsh under load.
The rear needs more control overall and, depending on your weight when in your 70% usage, the correct spring rate.
What is your weight during your 70% usage? ...(I'm 220 with gear).
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Firefight911 said:Since I'm 215 you could do well to go with my set up and you would be most happy.
I do have a spacer that I'm not using if you chose not go with an aftermarket shock and only want to use an SAE spring. Review my threads on suspension for info and also look up AC for his thread on the work he did on his through Penske.
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PM to ya. Boom! Somehow my original PM to you didn't get there. My iphone Tapatalk ap has crashed a few times over the week, grrrrr, so that might explain it. Well, that and I have been at work so I'm not able to respond as quickly as I like. Ask your friend about the fatal car crash on Blue Ravine. Yea, I was first arriving truck on that horrible wreck!BlueByU said:Phil,
Just got the phone and have a Eibach 850lb spring coming. So I need the spacer soon.