How many miles on ES - issues ?

[Oilhead]

Currently looking at a couple of gen 2's. Originally wanted non-ES, but one that I am looking at has ES with low miles and is a great deal. Do we have any feedback from high mileage electronic suspensions. Electronics on most vehicles are pretty darn robust, still leery. Also - what are the weight and electrical system penalties of the electronic suspension? Forgive the paranoia - I am still a GS owner...

 

[dell835]

I’ve been on here for years & owned 2017 ES for 2 years & 30k miles- I have had no trouble & not heard of any real problems. Minimal maintenance & they just keep running.

 

[RIDEMYST]

My 2015 ES has over 100K miles with no issues. I change the oil every 5K and all fluids & plugs every 2 years.


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[fredz43]

40,000+ on my 14 ES and no problems.

 

[~TABASCO~]

Ive worked on a bunch with high miles 75-100K... No issues as far as breaking that Ive seen. You still have to keep up with fork seals / guides / oil changes on the forks. The rear has not "broken", but I have seen some that definitely need a refresh.

If you like the "ES" I would say go for it... Its quite robust IMOP.

 

[holligl]

I have 56k mi on my 2014 ES. Replaced seals and bushing on the forks about 10k miles ago. One difference with the ES forks is that the damping on the left is on compression, the right is on rebound, for what that's worth. Getting the ES shock out when doing the suspension linkage lube is a bit tricky.

I do like the ease that you can adjust. I have adjusted the preload simply because the lean on the sidestand was too much or too little. You can really tell the difference as it goes up or down. I usually run with softer dampner settings.

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[Oilhead]

I have definitely been sold on the reliability of the ST in general which is my main priority. It is the long term reliability of the electronic suspension specifically that I was curious about. Tabasco...you mentioned a refresh-so it is possible to service the electronic suspension? That would be very good if that were the case. Any comments on weight difference (on a 600 lb bike..ha) or electrical draw?
Thanks for the comments folks!

 

[Sierra1]

There can't be much of an electrical draw, my battery is OE, and I've killed it twice. Still cranks fine, and has only recently been treated to a regular 'Tender diet. As for weight? Yeah, she's a voluptuous girl, so the electronics are a moot point; can't be much. But, in my opinion, definitely go with the ES. Not only does it simplify the preload setting when you go from passenger to solo, or loaded like a pack mule to bare bones. But, for me anyway, the best thing is being able to change the rebound/compression when the road conditions change . . . . on the fly. The ES also gets OE heated grips. . . . for when you travel out of California.

I think Tabasco was referring to the "hardware" of the e-suspension when he mentioned the "refresh". The electronics adjust the hardware, which are the wear items.

I don't blame you for being concerned about reliability. . . . especially after the GS. But, it's a Yamaha. I've had plenty of them, and never had any issues with mine. Good luck.

 

[WJBertrand]

78K miles on my 5.5 year old '15 ES. The ES system has been dealing with adjusting a 20% stiffer rear spring for all of about 10K of those miles as well. No issues at all.

 

[Oilhead]

Thanks Sierra! So the suspension is fairly standard on the rear, just motor or servo driven? The front sounds a little odd. The oil weight sounds like it can change. Is that about it for the front?
Sunny California was 37 degrees on my commute to work this morning. Luckily, you can fry bacon on the GS heated grips on high!

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . The front sounds a little odd. The oil weight sounds like it can change. Is that about it for the front? . . . .

The front is electric controlled too. Each fork tube has a lead attached at the top. There is a learning curve with the e-suspension. The easiest way to learn it, is just to go ride on different types of roads. Make large adjustments at first to see how the bike reacts, then start making finer adjustments until you have it where you want it.

By the way, I rode an RT1150 for seven years, and 65k+ miles. Broke two drive shafts, three starters, and the side stand, to name a few "issues" I had. So, yeah, no GS for me.

 

[HeliMark]

I don't think I have read about a failure, but I am sure there has been some, somewhere. The only thing I have seen here has been a fault code, or two, that was fixed by just doing a reset of the system, which can be done at home.

 

[VRODE]

‘16 w/24k. The only problem I have is this thing seems to always need gas, and occasionally, tires and oil.

 

[Sierra1]

Sometimes more than others.

 

[jeepinoutwest]

73k no issues with ES

 

[Cycledude]

20,000 miles on my 2018 Tenere and so far other than taking awhile to understand how to adjust it absolutely no issues. I do like having ES.

 

[Mak10]

I bought an es, and was leery at first. I love the quick, easy adjustments. It really makes the bike an all purpose joy to ride. Two up? Easy, washboard road, soften the ride, off road? Stiffen it up, no bottoming.
I bought the extended warranty fromYamaha, so far it has not paid for itself.

 

[SuckSqueezeBangBlow]

I have about 25,000 km on my 2018 ES. Of that probably 20% of that is off road, dirt, mud, water, 14,000 ft right down to sea level. Knock on wood but never had an issue.

 

[Ss1]

But on the contrary, I have a sad experience. This year, in May, the warranty expired and in July the rear shock absorber leaked. Tried to do not in Yamaha. Filmed and staged five times. There was no way the mechanic could fix it. In the end, it seemed to be done, but drove about 1000 km and again dripped. The mileage is only 40 thousand km. If I don’t do the winter, I’ll have to buy a new one, which is $ 2000

 

[bimota]

But on the contrary, I have a sad experience. This year, in May, the warranty expired and in July the rear shock absorber leaked. Tried to do not in Yamaha. Filmed and staged five times. There was no way the mechanic could fix it. In the end, it seemed to be done, but drove about 1000 km and again dripped. The mileage is only 40 thousand km. If I don’t do the winter, I’ll have to buy a new one, which is $ 2000

sorry Ss1 to hear this, but when reading this thread i thought of a story of your issue so must of read it on a different thread

rob