Highbeams not working

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Have a recently purchased 2015 Tenere ES, the highbeams are not coming on, pulled bulbs, they are Oscan 64210 bulbs 55w single filament. Not sure if these are the proper bulbs or not. Drivers side wires are black and white and passenger side looks to be blue and grey for plugs going to the bulbs. If these are the proper bulbs, any suggestions on what may cause the highbeams to not function. Previous owner had a Eager Beaver connection point, wondering if the high beam wire was pulled as a trigger wire. Headlights do a great job lighting the tree tops, but will align once the highbeam issue is resolved. Thx
 

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The bulbs are correct, single filament. The S10 uses a 'shutter' system that lifts when you activate high-beams. I would suggest checking the fuses and then see if you have power going to the leads when you hit the high-beams. I cannot help you with what wires to check, but someone (CW or EricV) will be able to.........
 

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The bulbs are correct, single filament. The S10 uses a 'shutter' system that lifts when you activate high-beams. I would suggest checking the fuses and then see if you have power going to the leads when you hit the high-beams. I cannot help you with what wires to check, but someone (CW or EricV) will be able to.........
Thx...gives me an idea now on what to track
 

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Looks like shutter opens in low beam and closes when high beam switch is activated, seems it should be reverse of that. Can anyone verify which way is correct ...thx
 

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Shutter down in low beam. Shutter up in high beam. You will also hear a relatively loud click every time you open and close the shutter with the switch. This will tell you that the shutter is operating. Also, I suggest you place the bike on the centre stand facing a wall around 10 feet away. Then operate the low and high beams and you should see the difference from the height of the light on the wall.
 

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Shutter down in low beam. Shutter up in high beam. You will also hear a relatively loud click every time you open and close the shutter with the switch. This will tell you that the shutter is operating. Also, I suggest you place the bike on the centre stand facing a wall around 10 feet away. Then operate the low and high beams and you should see the difference from the height of the light on the wall.
What would typically cause shutter operation to reverse?
 

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If it was truly just reversed, you should have high beams and low beams still, just opposite of the switch.

Lets back up a bit. Why do you think the high beams don't work? With the H7 single filament bulb, you should have had light in a pattern that did not change when the high/low switch was operated or the Flash was pressed if they didn't work. You do know that the front trigger switch is NOT the high beam switch, right? (Just want to rule out that you're not familiar with the correct switch for high beams)
 
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If it was truly just reversed, you should have high beams and low beams still, just opposite of the switch.

Lets back up a bit. Why do you think the high beams don't work? With the H7 single filament bulb, you should have had light in a pattern that did not change when the high/low switch was operated or the Flash was pressed. You do know that the front trigger switch is NOT the high beam switch, right? (Just want to rule out that you're not familiar with the correct switch for high beams)
Both bulbs light, was not aware the Tenere used a shutter for changing the light pattern versus a two filament bulb. The switch used also illuminates the high beam indicator, so I’m assuming, that is also the high beam switch which activates the shutter. Using a mirror to look at the shutter, when the switch is activated for the high beam side, not passing, the shutters close. When switched back to the low beam setting, the shutters retract/open. When looking at the light pattern on a wall, not much change in pattern between the high/low settings.

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It's very common for the headlights to be poorly aimed from the factory. The switch has a "flash" feature that momentarily lights the high beams. Does that appear to work?

You say "not much change in pattern" which implies there is some change. How far from the wall is the bike?

Please keep in mind, I don't know what you know, so am simply trying to identify, clarify and rule things out. No more.

From your description, the shutter is working. Regardless of if it's working correctly or not, you should see a light pattern change. For the moment, let's forget about the shutter system. :p It's just 12v or not that triggers the shutter. You appear to have a signal to the relay and shutters.

Another very common issue that can cause poor beam pattern is improper bulb seating in the housing. When correct, both bulbs have a tang that should be at approx 7 o'ckock. Please check that. People have actually taken the headlight assembly off the bike, sure that the bulbs were correctly installed, only to discover they were not when they could actually see it clearly. Yamaha didn't help us with a nice clear feel to seating the bulbs. They did make it pretty easy to remove the headlight assembly though.

The projector lens makes it somewhat more important that the bulb is exactly in the focal plane. Angled off and it really makes a difference. Because of the bulbs you have, Osram, we know someone changed the bulbs before you got the bike.
 

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It's very common for the headlights to be poorly aimed from the factory. The switch has a "flash" feature that momentarily lights the high beams. Does that appear to work?

You say "not much change in pattern" which implies there is some change. How far from the wall is the bike?

Please keep in mind, I don't know what you know, so am simply trying to identify, clarify and rule things out. No more.

From your description, the shutter is working. Regardless of if it's working correctly or not, you should see a light pattern change. For the moment, let's forget about the shutter system. :p It's just 12v or not that triggers the shutter. You appear to have a signal to the relay and shutters.

Another very common issue that can cause poor beam pattern is improper bulb seating in the housing. When correct, both bulbs have a tang that should be at approx 7 o'ckock. Please check that. People have actually taken the headlight assembly off the bike, sure that the bulbs were correctly installed, only to discover they were not when they could actually see it clearly. Yamaha didn't help us with a nice clear feel to seating the bulbs. They did make it pretty easy to remove the headlight assembly though.

The projector lens makes it somewhat more important that the bulb is exactly in the focal plane. Angled off and it really makes a difference. Because of the bulbs you have, Osram, we know someone changed the bulbs before you got the bike.
Appreciate the info, will verify the bulbs are in the correct position, understand how that can affect the plane of the projector lens.

Distance from wall was 8 to 10 feet when testing the beam pattern. Knew the bulbs were replacements, and that they way the headlight power wires were wrapped around the retainer clips, that something was amiss. Thx
 

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Try adjusting the low beam aim, there are various methods available on the Internet. A lot of Super Ténérés seem to have been delivered with the aim way too high, my ‘15 ES certainly was. When you switch to high beam it just shines up in the sky so you can’t tell it’s working.


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Once you've verified the bulbs are seated correctly, try positioning the bike about 25' from a wall and mark a spot directly centered on the bike, 40" off the ground, (the approx center point of our headlight height). That's your aiming point, with your normal riding weight on the bike. High beam should be equally above and below, low beam cut off should be 2" below that mark.
https://itstillruns.com/adjust-motorcycle-headlight-5852411.html

Too close to the wall and you don't see relative change as much. When you eventually get this sorted and are happy with the aim point, mark a spot at any range convenient so you have a reference point in the future, should you make changes in suspension, etc.
 

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Glad we could help. When you have some time, please fill out your profile with your location. Doesn't need to be exact or anything, just state or country will help people better answer questions and give better context to your posts too.
 

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Looks like shutter opens in low beam and closes when high beam switch is activated, seems it should be reverse of that. Can anyone verify which way is correct ...thx
So your shutter was not doing this after all??
 
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