Heated grips.

[RUSTINPEACE]

Well, it could be because they are broken down, as ErikV write, then the "control" don't "see" them because of missing resistance, and will take them away from the menu.
Have you tried to set the dashboard to default?
Maybe they will appear again, if they just are deleted from the menu, by operator, by mistake

Thanks for the suggestion! ::012:: But I've checked all the fuses, disconnected/reconnected the battery, and reset the dashboard to the default settings.

I'm guessing at this point they might be broken?

 

[EricV]

I'm guessing at this point they might be broken?

Before you guess, I would strongly urge you to find the connectors for the left and right heated grip elements. They are two wire plugs. Same style for both sides. Mine are gray plastic. Once you find them, unplug them, just for good measure, cycle the ignition, then test each grip element by using a Digital Multi Meter and touching the positive probe to one pin, the negative probe to the other pin, both on the element side. If the grip element has integrity, it should show continuity between the pins. If the element is bad, there won't be a connection between the two sides of the grip element.

If the elements appear to be ok, good continuity between the pins, plug them back in and see what happens when you turn the bike back on. If one or both grips shows bad, that may be your answer. If the plugs have been cut off, or wires spliced in to the plugs, that may suggest they are not Yamaha grip heaters and why they don't work thru the ECU.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Just to add a small bit to what Eric wrote, also use the multimeter to check continuity between the plugs at the grips and beneath the right access panel.

 

[Gatey]

Thanks for the youtube.
My bike exactly

 

[Crew Chief]

I just finished a successful installation using all the bits that would have come in the kit. Thanks to the folks that did all the homework for this project. You made it easy.

 

[klorence]

hi there everyone.

I hate to be "that guy" who dredges up a topic again that should by all accounts be solved, but i've spent the better part of this week searching and reading everything i could find on this and other forums about installing aftermarket (oxford) heated grips on my new non-ES 2017 S10.

I initially read some disturbing things about the Yamaha OEM grips being garbage, got scared off by that (and the price!) and so I ordered Oxfords. I have experience with the Oxfords; I installed them with a relay, etc. on my old bike, a bonnie T-100, and could go the same route again.

But I am sorely tempted to try to use the OEM plugs so that I can use the bike's on-board controls. Also, now that it seems possible to buy the parts separately (instead of the kit) for around 2 beans instead of 350-400, it might be worth it to go for the OEMs and return the Oxfords.

I've seen where a guy from columbia supposedly was successful with plugging Puig's right into the OEM connectors, but now I'm reading on this thread where the resistance of the Oxfords might be too high. Then I read where it might work fine on another thread or forum, and then I can't seem to find the promised follow-ups of folks who've done it, and then I read where someone's OEM yamaha grups stopped working, etc etc... you get the picture. :

SO, to help a guy out, can someone definitively verify a couple of things for me, and for the group at large?

1. Are the OEM grips really junk? DO they last more than a couple of years? (the oxfords on my bonnie were still going strong after 5 years and 16k+ miles)

2. Will plugging Oxfords into the OEM plugs work? (adequate heat, show up in the controls, not blow anything up, etc)

3. If it were you and your money, would you spend $90 plus the extra $ for relay, power distribution, etc. (probably end up ~$125 or so), or just spring for the $225 OEMs?

4. If i do "give up" and spring for the OEMs, what is the go-to parts place with the best price?

thanks so much for your help - these threads have been great for me as a new tenere owner! ::008::

 

[Crew Chief]

3. If it were you and your money, would you spend $90 plus the extra $ for relay, power distribution, etc. (probably end up ~$125 or so), or just spring for the $225 OEMs?

I put my money on the OEM's just this month and could have chosen anything. A clean installation and integration with the factory controls was the deciding factor for me. I'm not afraid of other solutions. In fact I bought warm and safe's kit with the Symtec heaters for another bike and will be installing that this month.

4. If i do "give up" and spring for the OEMs, what is the go-to parts place with the best price?

"Best Price" is a target that is constantly moving. If I'm terribly price sensitive, I'll find the part number then do a search using that untill I think I have it sorted. Currently, I'm finding Powersportswarehouse.com is the price leader and that's where I ordered my heaters from. I haven't had any significant issues with them, but their service isn't the best. I get other peoples tracking numbers, there is poor communication, the order is shipped in 2 shipments but there's no packing list in the box and I haven't been told about the 2 shipments and I have someone else's tracking number so I don't know if there's a problem or not. They aren't real good about answering the phone or emails and aren't real professional when they do. You get what you pay for I guess. My favorite place to do business and the place that usually comes in #2 on price is Motosport.com. They actually stock some parts, their website tells you if they have it or not and the price and service are both good. I can't remember for certain, but I don't think they carry Kawasaki.

 

[klorence]

I put my money on the OEM's just this month and could have chosen anything. A clean installation and integration with the factory controls was the deciding factor for me. I'm not afraid of other solutions. In fact I bought warm and safe's kit with the Symtec heaters for another bike and will be installing that this month.

Thanks, Crew Chief - after sleeping on it I'm leaning the same way. I'll check out those online vendors - thanks for your input; much appreciated!

Edit: best price I found was PartShark out of Indy (http://www.partshark.com/). They seem legit and were way under some of the others I found... Should ship within this coming week - we'll see what happens.

thanks again!

 

[Don in Lodi]

Doesn't the OEM heated grip require a different throttle side switch housing?

 

[Crew Chief]

Not for a Gen II. I don't know about a Gen I.

 

[klorence]

Wrap-up/update: I finally installed them this past weekend. They fit perfectly and function as advertised (completely plug-n-play). Here are a couple of things from my experience to add for folks out there considering installing these OEM grips:

1. This is a pretty easy installation if you have basic skills. A second set of hands might help; a 'cleaner' solution to greasing up the housing where the right side wire lives would certainly help. This is the part that took me the longest, and where the second set of hands would come in handy. (Why does the wire have to live inside the housing? Why not a solution like on the left side where it just tucks into the groove already there on that side's housing?)

2. I spent most of my time gathering the stuff i didn't have on hand for installation: trying to find silicone grease (??? I never did. i ended up using lithium/generic blue marine grease from walmart); trying to find a 12mm hex socket key for bar end removal (4th auto parts store finally had one - most sets go only to 10mm as someone mentioned earlier); a bit of time photoshopping the images i found earlier to try to make them bigger/more readable (if someone has access to higher-res versions of those they are really helpful)

3. The video snip i found of the wire in the housing was helpful too - gave me the "A-ha!" moment that answered "What the heck do i do with this curly plastic piece?"

4. Left grip was plenty tight without glue. In fact, I'm really glad I had it lined up when I tried to slide it on partway for test fit. Couldn't remove it, so just continued sliding it on. I think hairspray or whatever glue you like would help in sliding it on and positioning it properly, but it's not necessary at all to keep the grip from moving.

5. I didn't need to remove anything off of the bars at all except the bar end bolts & bar ends. Tucked the plastic guards up out of the way. I did remove both right side panels so that I could see better where to route the cables.

So thanks to everyone who posted info, images, and video; much appreciated! ::003::

 

[ruenjou1]

Just wanted to add that I successfully installed the grip heater by simply purchasing the individual parts and following instructions posted here. It works!

Thanks guys.

 

[txplants]

Wrap-up/update: I finally installed them this past weekend. They fit perfectly and function as advertised (completely plug-n-play). Here are a couple of things from my experience to add for folks out there considering installing these OEM grips:

1. This is a pretty easy installation if you have basic skills. A second set of hands might help; a 'cleaner' solution to greasing up the housing where the right side wire lives would certainly help. This is the part that took me the longest, and where the second set of hands would come in handy. (Why does the wire have to live inside the housing? Why not a solution like on the left side where it just tucks into the groove already there on that side's housing?)

2. I spent most of my time gathering the stuff i didn't have on hand for installation: trying to find silicone grease (??? I never did. i ended up using lithium/generic blue marine grease from walmart); trying to find a 12mm hex socket key for bar end removal (4th auto parts store finally had one - most sets go only to 10mm as someone mentioned earlier); a bit of time photoshopping the images i found earlier to try to make them bigger/more readable (if someone has access to higher-res versions of those they are really helpful)

3. The video snip i found of the wire in the housing was helpful too - gave me the "A-ha!" moment that answered "What the heck do i do with this curly plastic piece?"

4. Left grip was plenty tight without glue. In fact, I'm really glad I had it lined up when I tried to slide it on partway for test fit. Couldn't remove it, so just continued sliding it on. I think hairspray or whatever glue you like would help in sliding it on and positioning it properly, but it's not necessary at all to keep the grip from moving.

5. I didn't need to remove anything off of the bars at all except the bar end bolts & bar ends. Tucked the plastic guards up out of the way. I did remove both right side panels so that I could see better where to route the cables.

So thanks to everyone who posted info, images, and video; much appreciated! ::003::

Could you direct me to the video snip you are referring to?

Thanks!

 

[klorence]

Could you direct me to the video snip you are referring to?

Thanks!

Sorry, been out of touch for a bit - here's the link to the vid that helped show me where things go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkkoRATn-MY

 

[Csdude34]

I had the dealer install the Yamaha heated grips on my 2015 super tenere before I took delivery.worked great 1 winter but they just stopped working and appearing on the menu last week.Yamaha customer service was not willing to warranty saying it was an accessory so only covered by 1 year warranty even though I have the extended warranty.Has anyone else had trouble with those grips ($370)!!

 

[txplants]

Sorry, been out of touch for a bit - here's the link to the vid that helped show me where things go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkkoRATn-MY

Thank you!

 

[Checkswrecks]

I had the dealer install the Yamaha heated grips on my 2015 super tenere before I took delivery.worked great 1 winter but they just stopped working and appearing on the menu last week.Yamaha customer service was not willing to warranty saying it was an accessory so only covered by 1 year warranty even though I have the extended warranty.Has anyone else had trouble with those grips ($370)!!

Yes, there've been a few people who have had a grip stop working, I believe from the wire breaking where it goes into the rubber. That is a common failure mode for nearly all of the heated grips though, not just Yamaha. The good news is that you can replace the individual grips and the part numbers are elsewhere in this thread.

 

[EricV]

I had the dealer install the Yamaha heated grips on my 2015 super tenere before I took delivery.worked great 1 winter but they just stopped working and appearing on the menu last week.Yamaha customer service was not willing to warranty saying it was an accessory so only covered by 1 year warranty even though I have the extended warranty.Has anyone else had trouble with those grips ($370)!!

I would consider asking the dealer who installed them to step up and cover the repair themselves. The individual grips/parts are much cheaper than the 'kit'. You may only need one grip, or just some wiring repair. The most common suspect is the throttle side grip wires since that gets the most strain. If the grip wires were not lubricated properly when it was installed, this generally can lead to early failure. Good luck.

 

[raynchk]

i just did the install today. Damn those yamaha instructions are confusing. But everything seems to work the way it's supposed too. For me the hardest part was the right hand grip, everything greasy from the lube, but eventually it came together. Feels better when its done and everything works the way its supposed too.

 

[GreenMtn.Man]

I have a brand new left over 16 60th ST I just picked up last month. It's non ES so I ordered the Factory grips after getting the parts number here, thanks to those who put in the work before me and saving me the hassle of researching myself. It's been clod as hell here in Vermont for weeks now but was able to get out to the garage last night to give a look at what I am up against. Seems like a simple plug and play from what I have as far as install. I did test the grips by plugin into the wiring harness and noticed that my bike would not "find" the grip with just the left one installed, so anyone who may have that issue would want to check the wires at the source of power. One question I have is on the removal of the bar-ends, once the hand guards are removed, what size wrench do I need to take off the weighted portion of the bar end? Seems big and I don't believe I have that size at this time.