GPS &/or Phone App

COSoccerDad

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I've searched the threads but could not find this, so I apologize if this subject has been worked over but I couldn't find it.
I don't have a GPS, and historically have used the REVER app on my Android phone for my tarmac only rides for years. What do you all use for mapping rides, for trail, dirt, tarmac, both/all, etc.? I've been checking out the onX Offroad app, and it looks promising, but what do you all use?
 

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Just a tip. Its probably better to do searches through google rather than the search part of the Forum. If you use Boolean statements the returns are much more precise and its quite simple. I have a Garmin XT Satnav and its excellent.
 

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I've found the maps used by Rever to be pretty comprehensive when it came to listing dirt/gravel/forest roads in the part of North Carolina that I reside in. The Butler Maps feature on the app has a category that identifies dirt roads.

There's a website called Gravelmap (www.gravelmap.com) that can help you to locate all the non-paved roads in the area you ride. I use it frequently. It's not a mapping app, it just shows you which roads are unpaved. If I'm planning a ride of mostly unpaved roads, I frequently have both the Rever site and the Gravelmap site open simultaneously.
 
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I use GaiaGPS app, on my android tablet. allows me to import GPX track routes, does active re-routing, and handles on and offroad situations.
It has its quirks, but it works for the riding I do, especially when i'm far, far offgrid that my Garmin GPS just shows a green blob for many miles in every direction
 

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I use a few apps. All have their benefits and drawbacks. For plotting routes and having voice navigation, I import gpx files into OsmAnd. It's a really good app IMO. It has all of the forest roads available and the ability to import gpx tracks is nice.

I also have the DMD2 app installed (I use a tablet for navigation) and it's maps are really comprehensive as well.

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I use a few apps. All have their benefits and drawbacks. For plotting routes and having voice navigation, I import gpx files into OsmAnd. It's a really good app IMO. It has all of the forest roads available and the ability to import gpx tracks is nice.
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OsmAnd here too. I have a cheap Android that lives on the bike as my GPS and it has no cell service so I download maps from both OsmAnd and Google Maps for wherever I'm going.
 

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You can look into Guru Pro. More basic than either OsmAnd+ or Locus. I use GuruPro and OsmAnd+, never took the time for the steep learningcurve of Locus. From wht I rad Locus is the hot setup if you are really looking for lots of different functionality. For online, onroad A to B routing I just use Google Maps.
 

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I have been using the Garmin Montana for several years now and my go too for an adventure ride.
Its rugged, watertight and glove user friendly, also easy to read. I bought two Garmin maps for it, city maps and offroad maps that both cover all of North America.
I also have Google maps on my Iphone that I use but use it for address seeking and passing through unfamiliar cities, it will bypass me through traffic issues as it gets the latest info.
Both are bike mounted via a cradle, which one I use at the moment depends on what and where, I may even use both in some situations.
 

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For many years I always used whatever version of Garmin's Zumo GPS. Finally I decided I'm done. They are expensive, have poor visibility in sun light, and a true PITA when in isolated situations where the road disappears if you zoom out. I planned to keep the Zumo 665 until it died then go to a phone. Even though my early experiments with a phone were mixed at best. I found I had a lot of uneasiness with the dust, the weatherproofing, and the insane amount of vibration when riding off road, and of course the inability to adjust anything unless wearing fingerless gloves. All of that even before finding a suitable mapping app.

My attitude changed when on a multi-day ride with a trusted riding buddy and he could not stop highlighting the improvements Garmin had made on the new Zumo XT. It really was daylight readable (for the first time), they dramatically improved the map operation, included map updates in the purchase price, and the price was significantly lower that previous versions. This friend's recommendations had a long established, proven track record with me, so I took the plunge. Good move on my part.

The XT is a game-changer in the Zumo line. It doesn't suck. I'm hard pressed to come up with navigational changes I would make. I think Gramin realized they were losing out to phones and had to come up with a justification to keep selling GPS units to motorcyclist. They bought themselves a few more years in the bike market. It's not perfect. The cell tower driven weather info is limiting in areas without cell towers. There are times when getting back to the navigation screen takes more screen touches than I'd like. And of course, when you have a phone, a headset, a gps, and maybe even a bike with bluetooth, it all can go to sh!$* and make you want to turn off everything. But overall, the XT is a great step in a positive direction. Garmin has preserved a spot on my bikes for a few more years.
 

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I agree 100%, Dirt Dad.

I got a Zumo XT as a birthday gift (I doubt I'd ever have bought one myself). I've used a combination of a Nuvi and cell phone navigation apps for years, but have always been disappointed with the limitations of the cell phones that you noted, along with navigation apps that weren't really optimized for motorcycle travel. Cell phones are great for navigation in a car, but they still were lacking on a bike.

The Zumo XT really solved all those issues. It looks like it was designed by someone who had familiarity with navigating on a motorcycle. It's great that I can create a route on Rever or MyRoute and wirelessly upload it to the Zumo. It can read tracks without any sort of conversions, unlike apps like Rever. I often navigate just with a track and not a turn by turn route (One of the reasons I like Rever is that you can create tracks). If I create a route in MyRoute, I can simultaneously upload both a track and a route to the Zumo. I can follow the track while I'm on the open road, and seamlessly switch to the turn by turn route once I'm in a town and might want those more precise directions. The route is easy to alter while it's in progress, it gives you a twisty roads option, and if it's linked to your phone, it'll even text a designated person if you crash and give your location. You can turn off the auto-recalculate function, so it won't try to reroute you if you miss a waypoint. And man, is that screen bright! It's fantastic to be riding down the road on a sunny day and actually be able to see the display. I think it's a fantastic piece of equipment.
 

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I have been riding with Garmin since 2006 (Quest) and very much experienced with mapsource and basecamp. I was always looking for an alternative, but end up staying with Garmin.
Up until last year I had an old Zumo 220 for the ST and the Montana for my street legal dirtbike. Bought the XT last year and I can finally see where the track or route is taking me. The Montana is good for off road use, but still hard to see (better than my old 60) The XT is big and bright, but I think it is too big for a true off road machine. Perfect for ADV bikes.

Where I live Garmin maps with lifetime updates show you most of the unpaved roads on the computer. They do not on the XT or any other street GPS. I plan a track ahead and follow it when I ride. I think the Montana or any any of the handhelds show you gravel roads as a doted line, but it is hard to see them. That is why I always follow a highlighted track I made in advance or someone else did.
 
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For many years I always used whatever version of Garmin's Zumo GPS. Finally I decided I'm done. They are expensive, have poor visibility in sun light, and a true PITA when in isolated situations where the road disappears if you zoom out. I planned to keep the Zumo 665 until it died then go to a phone. Even though my early experiments with a phone were mixed at best. I found I had a lot of uneasiness with the dust, the weatherproofing, and the insane amount of vibration when riding off road, and of course the inability to adjust anything unless wearing fingerless gloves. All of that even before finding a suitable mapping app.

My attitude changed when on a multi-day ride with a trusted riding buddy and he could not stop highlighting the improvements Garmin had made on the new Zumo XT. It really was daylight readable (for the first time), they dramatically improved the map operation, included map updates in the purchase price, and the price was significantly lower that previous versions. This friend's recommendations had a long established, proven track record with me, so I took the plunge. Good move on my part.

The XT is a game-changer in the Zumo line. It doesn't suck. I'm hard pressed to come up with navigational changes I would make. I think Gramin realized they were losing out to phones and had to come up with a justification to keep selling GPS units to motorcyclist. They bought themselves a few more years in the bike market. It's not perfect. The cell tower driven weather info is limiting in areas without cell towers. There are times when getting back to the navigation screen takes more screen touches than I'd like. And of course, when you have a phone, a headset, a gps, and maybe even a bike with bluetooth, it all can go to sh!$* and make you want to turn off everything. But overall, the XT is a great step in a positive direction. Garmin has preserved a spot on my bikes for a few more years.
Love mine. Main reason i upgraded from the 660 was because of the issues in sunlight. Its like night and day.
 

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Advrider.com forum has a very comprehensive GPS nav sub forum. Very much worth your effort to do this research there.
 
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