Going for the Super T ES

Sierra1

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….What's very puzzling is the sag numbers show it is way under sprung for my 210-220lb weight geared up. It should handle like crap....
….This is the first I've heard about rider weight being a possible factor in how well the suspension will, or can, perform....Am I going to have to plan on a re-spring to get optimum performance from my ES?
….As for weight, my son weighs a good deal more than you and is fine on my non-ES with the stock suspension. With an ES, you'll simply pick a higher pre-load which would be about right for me with a little luggage. I wouldn't worry about re-springing a new ES.
I'm 300lbs, minimum. I set the preload to two helmets, and handling is not an issue. I don't know what the sag numbers would show for ME, but yes timebak, weight definitely effects handling. But, it's like Mr. Checkswrecks says, just start with a higher preload. Rebound and dampening will depend on road surface. The wife and I were riding, hit some weird dips, which caused the bike to wallow. Stiffened up from "soft" to "hard", and immediately the bike rode perfect. With my wife and I on the bike, we're at its load limit; and it still handles fine.
 

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That makes sense. Here in the US we are the last to get the updated goodies or cool motorcycles. Thanks for posting the updated rims!!
But look at the USA page well, in some pics, it appears with a common rim, in others pics, with reinforced rim.... the pearly white ... in the pages, it may be photoshop ... in the dealerships, all 2019 that I saw, they had reinforced
 

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Hmmmmmm. I wonder why we are the last to get the new and cool stuff? Is the US not a major market for them?? I'm just a lowly ex-Rocket Scientist and ex-R&D and Test & Evaluation Engineer and certainly know nothing about international marketing. BUT, if you want to mount guided missiles on your bike, come see me. ;):cool:

Also, I want to thank each and every one of you for the excellent info, thoughtful comments, and good advice you've given me. I hope that, in the future, I can return the favor.

Tim
 
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Hmmmmmm. I wonder why we are the last to get the new and cool stuff? Is the US not a major market for them?? I'm just a lowly ex-Rocket Scientist and ex-R&D and Test & Evaluation Engineer and certainly know nothing about international marketing. BUT, if you want to mount guided missiles on your bike, come see me. ;):cool:

Also, I want to thank each and every one of you for the excellent info, thoughtful comments, and good advice you've given me. I hope that, in the future, I can return the favor.

Tim
I got to hang out a few times in the 90's with the Huntsville NASA crowd. They knew where to get the good stuff to chill a beer in seconds while using a little O2 to turn a barbecue into slagged steel, and their model rockets were unbelievable.
Talk about big boys and toys!!! LOL

As for which country got the updated rims, it may've simply been the factory cranked out the US allotment of bikes before the Canadian ones. The p/n I saw with the change was for one of the US versions, so my total guess is that the change happened while the US ones were in production.
 

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Hmmmmmm. I wonder why we are the last to get the new and cool stuff? Is the US not a major market for them?? I'm just a lowly ex-Rocket Scientist and ex-R&D and Test & Evaluation Engineer and certainly know nothing about international marketing. BUT, if you want to mount guided missiles on your bike, come see me. ;):cool:

Also, I want to thank each and every one of you for the excellent info, thoughtful comments, and good advice you've given me. I hope that, in the future, I can return the favor.

Tim
 

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I worked in Huntsville for NASA and the Army Missile command through the 80's and half of the 90's. Loved it so much that over 99% of the time, I would have paid them to get to do what I did. I was in Mission Control at Marshall Space Flight Center the morning that the Challenger blew up, and four of the astronauts were friends of mine: Ron McNair, Judy Resnik, Ellison Onizuka, and Greg Jarvis. I knew Dick Scobee and Mike Smith well enough to speak to them in the hallway, and didn't know Christa McAuliffe at all, but the others were real friends. That day sucked mightily. It took me decades before I could talk about that day. Ron and Judy and I and a couple of other engineers had worked together closely for several weeks before the launch, and Greg and I had worked adjacent consoles in Mission Control during Ron's first flight in 1984. El Onizuka and I worked closely together prior to his first flight (the first DoD Mission) and during the Mission we worked together, him on the Shuttle and me in a facility on the ground. Judy was an absolute hoot to work with - she was constantly stirring the pot. She delighted in teasing and embarrassing folks, especially Ron. I've seen poor ol' Ron blushing so badly due to her teasing that I thought his ears were going to spontaneously combust.
 
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