Givi Trekker Outback side cases

[Sckill]

So you are recommending more or less caulking all the corners and seams on the inside when you say "lining"?

Yes

 

[BravoBravo]

A warning on these cases from 1 year of use: they are not waterproof and per Givi were not designed to be. If you have these cases or are looking to buy them, I advise lining the inside edges of the case with a sealant like clear silicone.

I took these cases on a 2 week trip at the end of August and water got into the cases from the bottom corners after riding in rain for a few days. I sent the cases in for warranty claim, but got the below response from Givi earlier this week:

"Just wanted to let you know that your cases were extensively water tested and they passed within the parameters of which they were designed. Since the cases are technically not “water tight,” they may get a very tiny bit of water in them from time to time when exposed to heavy rain. When we tested yours, they were sprayed for a very long time. One case had some condensation on the inside, and the other had maybe a teaspoon worth in the bottom. There again, this is normal since the cases were not designed to be completely water tight."

This is disappointing considering how much these cases cost and the fact that water leaked in through the bottom of the case which should be sealed from the factory. I still like the cases overall and it's an easy remedy to apply silicone to seal it off, but we shouldn't have to do this if these were properly sealed from the factory. I avoided TraX boxes because I heard of the waterproofing issues on earlier cases.

These cases are only 1 year old and were never dropped or beat on. So if you have these cases, be sure to apply extra sealant so you don't end up with wet contents.

Just as a matter of interest, the Trax boxes I had on my 2009 Moto Guzzi Stelvio were not at all watertight. As a result, I always made sure I used waterproof bag liners with them. The newer Trax boxes I have on my 2012 Super Tenere, on the other hand, have proven to be watertight, although I still use a waterproof liner with them (my new boxes came complete with the liners) to be sure the contents remain dry in all conditions.

Cheers,

Bruce

 

[Sckill]

One more update from Givi:

"Where the water actually gets “in” is at the bottom under the plastic “corners.” There are very small “vent holes” under those plastic pieces. They have to be there, otherwise on some hot and or cold days, you would not be able to even open the cases because they would be completely sealed shut and the lids would not budge. So if you are involved in a significant amount of rainfall, it is normal for a very “small” amount of water to possibly make it into the bottom of the case."

My response to them was that this is an opportunity for design improvement. Instead of putting the venting on the bottom corner where the plastic effectively catches rain water running down the side of the case and allows it to go through the vent hole, why not put the venting on the top corner of the lid where the plastic shields the vent hole while still allowing air in to equalize pressure?

I sealed up my cases with silicone on the inside edges as well as the outside bottom edges. After spraying with a hose for a while, no leaks detected. I can understand the air pressure thing, but we'll see if it ever gets to a point where the cases are sealed tight due to air pressure. If it ever gets there, there's the option of making a small gap in the rubber seal of the lid to allow some air in.

 

[cory1848]

I have had mine through extensive downpours with no leaks yet. They are riveted though so there is a chance of water getting in. I use the Givi waterproof liner bags as well just in case. I actually love the liners as they are great for just pulling out the bag and bringing into a hotel room or camp without having to drag the hard case with it.

 

[WJBertrand]

I sealed up my cases with silicone on the inside edges as well as the outside bottom edges. After spraying with a hose for a while, no leaks detected. I can understand the air pressure thing, but we'll see if it ever gets to a point where the cases are sealed tight due to air pressure. If it ever gets there, there's the option of making a small gap in the rubber seal of the lid to allow some air in.

I had a similar issue with my Honda ST1100. There was a vent hole on the inside of the bag that was susceptible to water spraying off the rear brake rotor on the left side. The right side had the same vent hole but kept contents dry just fine. I silicone sealed that left vent hole. The case would evidently push open far enough to equilibrate when I rode up into the rocky mountains ~10,000 ft., but not when I came back down. I could not get the lid open for the live of me. Ended up de-mounting the bag and removing the silicone plug - whoosh!

 

[fjrden]

Slightly different. I had SW Motech quick release fitting kit good for nearly all Givi and Kappa. Ordered a set of 37 Litre Kappa Ventures and they arrived beautiful cases. They came with an adapter which appears wont fit. Bummer. Going to have another look tomorrow in the light of day

 

[FirstPath]

Just received my 35/47 Givi boxes from Motostorm. Exactly one week from order to delivery with boxes arriving on two separate days. Anxious to pull the S10 out of storage and mount up!

 

[hawk281]

Sprayed the inside of mine with Rustoleum Leak seal rubber coating, no problems as of yet. No leaks either. ::021::

 

[duartesss]

Hello,

Seems that you are using the Top-Case Givi Trekker Outback 58lts with an Altrider rack...Is correct?

If yes, boths (case and rack) works well ?

Thanks
Duarte S.

My bags from Motostorm finally made it to Austin! They showed up via Fedex yesterday. Fedex figured out there was no duty on them, which held them up for a day or so. For the record, it took about three weeks to get them (the mounting rack is backordered). Changed out the locks to work on a single key. They may build nice luggage but their instructions really stink.

Overall, very happy with the purchase, have not had a chance to ride with them yet (it keeps raining in Texas), but they look good!

One question for those that have this setup. My left side rack is just barely rubbing the exhaust shield (the front side of the mount). Anyone else had this issue?

 

[Super08]

Well I drank the kool aid and now I have a set of black 37/48 Outbacks on the way. I already had the 42l top box so it was only a matter of time. My bike came with the OEM panniers standard. I am not too fond of them however, especially how boxey they look. The key is very stiff to turn and the latch is plastic as are the boxes. They only have some aluminum on the outside for show. I was hoping Givi would have come out with a quick release version of the side frames by now, but no luck. I may order a spare 37 l case for the right side if I feel the 48 is too large for daily use. I don't see 60cm making that big of a difference though. After placing the order this morning I spent part of the afternoon removing the OEM panniers and returning the bike to how it would come from the factory without them in preparation of the Outbacks arriving. I was really tempted to go with the Trax Adventure as they look to be well made and come with quick release side frames. I decided to stay with the Outbacks as I don't like how the SW frames pull the panniers in at the back and the Outbacks are a better looking bag in my opinion. Here is my bike as it was before removing the stock panniers.

 

[abong]

Well I drank the kool aid and now I have a set of black 37/48 Outbacks on the way. I already had the 42l top box so it was only a matter of time. My bike came with the OEM panniers standard. I am not too fond of them however, especially how boxey they look. The key is very stiff to turn and the latch is plastic as are the boxes. They only have some aluminum on the outside for show. I was hoping Givi would have come out with a quick release version of the side frames by now, but no luck. I may order a spare 37 l case for the right side if I feel the 48 is too large for daily use. I don't see 60cm making that big of a difference though. After placing the order this morning I spent part of the afternoon removing the OEM panniers and returning the bike to how it would come from the factory without them in preparation of the Outbacks arriving. I was really tempted to go with the Trax Adventure as they look to be well made and come with quick release side frames. I decided to stay with the Outbacks as I don't like how the SW frames pull the panniers in at the back and the Outbacks are a better looking bag in my opinion. Here is my bike as it was before removing the stock panniers.

Would you like to sell those OEM pannier with the mounting kit at a bargain price?


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[Super08]

Would you like to sell those OEM pannier with the mounting kit at a bargain price?


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I am going to hang on to them for now, plus they are keyed to the ignition so I would have to keep the locks. They will be good incase something happens to the new ones or even to put back on the bike when I sell it. OK I admit it, I'm a pack rat.....

 

[2daMax]

Abong, yours did not come with the oem panniers?

Just wait for our southern neighbours (STOG) to sell theirs. I got mine and Din Rima got his....matter of time, someone will sell them. I know one member that still has a silver oem panniers but not in a very good condition. One of the lid's hinge was replaced and the plastic corners were glued back. No brackets but a new one cost around US$190 plus shipping.

 

[grey.hound]

Hey, can someone tell me the length, front to back of the outbacks. I know it says 495 mm on the website, but does that include the locks, or dimensions of the case? I am trying to decide on cases, including the Dolomiti cases. I know those are 540 mm with locks and the case itself is 495 mm. Wondering if the outbacks are the same. My concern is two-up leg room. Thanks.

 

[Xclimation]

Hey, can someone tell me the length, front to back of the outbacks. I know it says 495 mm on the website, but does that include the locks, or dimensions of the case? I am trying to decide on cases, including the Dolomiti cases. I know those are 540 mm with locks and the case itself is 495 mm. Wondering if the outbacks are the same. My concern is two-up leg room. Thanks.

I just measured mine.... 22 inches with locks, 20 inches without locks. Shouldn't be a problem for 2 up riding

 

[vwboomer]

Hey, can someone tell me the length, front to back of the outbacks. I know it says 495 mm on the website, but does that include the locks, or dimensions of the case? I am trying to decide on cases, including the Dolomiti cases. I know those are 540 mm with locks and the case itself is 495 mm. Wondering if the outbacks are the same. My concern is two-up leg room. Thanks.

Not an issue for a passenger, other than being a bit more awkward to mount and dismount the bike.

 

[supertenori]

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A warning on these cases from 1 year of use: they are not waterproof and per Givi were not designed to be. If you have these cases or are looking to buy them, I advise lining the inside edges of the case with a sealant like clear silicone.

I took these cases on a 2 week trip at the end of August and water got into the cases from the bottom corners after riding in rain for a few days. I sent the cases in for warranty claim, but got the below response from Givi earlier this week:

"Just wanted to let you know that your cases were extensively water tested and they passed within the parameters of which they were designed. Since the cases are technically not “water tight,” they may get a very tiny bit of water in them from time to time when exposed to heavy rain. When we tested yours, they were sprayed for a very long time. One case had some condensation on the inside, and the other had maybe a teaspoon worth in the bottom. There again, this is normal since the cases were not designed to be completely water tight."

This is disappointing considering how much these cases cost and the fact that water leaked in through the bottom of the case which should be sealed from the factory. I still like the cases overall and it's an easy remedy to apply silicone to seal it off, but we shouldn't have to do this if these were properly sealed from the factory. I avoided TraX boxes because I heard of the waterproofing issues on earlier cases.

These cases are only 1 year old and were never dropped or beat on. So if you have these cases, be sure to apply extra sealant so you don't end up with wet contents.

I had leaking cases in 2018 Raid Edition Tenere. Every corner on the bottom. It is imple to seal corners with Wurth glue. Quite a bug from case-factory...
Those boxes are very handsome on touring.

 

[TooTall]

Another question. I also have a Raid Edition with these cases, and I just added the top box myself. My bike came with the extra 3rd key cylinder, so I installed that in the top box.

Everybody is talking about using locktite on the securing nut to secure the cylinder from falling out, but where do you apply the locktite exactely? Has the design changed? Because I think this is what everybody is talking about;

But on my cases there is no single locking nut, the cylinder is secured using 2 tiny torx screws. Should I check the 2 sidecases (dealer installed) for locktite on those?

 

[DragonDMac]

Hello friends, can someone give me some advice? I bought the Givi outback racks and panniers from Sckill. But for some reason I just cannot install them on my 2014 Super Tenere ES. I removed a side panel but now the right rack is jammed against my brake reservoir. Could it be his racks are only for a Gen 1 (he had a 2012)?

 

[BadNews]

There were some design changes starting with the 2014 model year, but I don't think the Givi rack mounting system was any different (I could be wrong on that, though.) From your photo it appears your rear brake reservoir is attached outboard of the frame. Mine (2017) is attached well inboard directly under the right butt cheek of the seat.
<Edit> I found a post from 2014 by marble1 that addresses your issue exactly. Search for the thread titled "What do we now think of the bike" and scroll down to post #6. There are 4 pictures and he discusses the issue with the brake reservoir and the Givi racks.