Gen 1 Tenere No crank But starts eventually

[Dojima]

My 2011 tenere has been frequenting a no crank start. Happened once a week, now almost everyday. I use the kill switch to kill of the engine(not sure if this is bad). I start by turning key to ON position, kill switch disengage and then press start switch. First few times when pressing the start switch there'll be no crank, only the yellow light which comes on when pressing the starter switch. After a few times of pressing the button the bike starts. 1 time start. Sometimes cranks weakly but eventually starts. Today didn't crank weakly. Started after three to four times of pressing the starter switch with no crank. Is there something I should be worried about? I usually wait for a few seconds after disengaging kill switch to turn over the engine.

 

[holligl]

My 2011 tenere has been frequenting a no crank start. Happened once a week, now almost everyday. I use the kill switch to kill of the engine(not sure if this is bad). I start by turning key to ON position, kill switch disengage and then press start switch. First few times when pressing the start switch there'll be no crank, only the yellow light which comes on when pressing the starter switch. After a few times of pressing the button the bike starts. 1 time start. Sometimes cranks weakly but eventually starts. Today didn't crank weakly. Started after three to four times of pressing the starter switch with no crank. Is there something I should be worried about? I usually wait for a few seconds after disengaging kill switch to turn over the engine.

How old is your battery? Check voltage and connections.

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[Don in Lodi]

Just checking your terminology, when you say 'no crank' you do mean it is not spinning over at all? And after not turning over several times it will randomly turn over and start? A 'no crank start' makes no sense. Bad starter relay? Bad contacts in the start button?

 

[Dojima]

Age not too sure just took ownership of this pre owned bike. Voltage:
Key to ON position: 12.4v
Cranking Voltage: 10-10.4v
Idle: 14.3v

Is it common to have a loose battery connection?

 

[Dojima]

Just checking your terminology, when you say 'no crank' you do mean it is not spinning over at all? And after not turning over several times it will randomly turn over and start? Bad starter relay?

Yes correct. Bike does not turn over at all for about 3-4 presses of the starter switch. Then starts after the 3-4 presses

 

[HeliMark]

Age not too sure just took ownership of this pre owned bike. Voltage:
Key to ON position: 12.4v
Cranking Voltage: 10-10.4v
Idle: 14.3v

Is it common to have a loose battery connection?

Sounds like you need a new battery. I would load test the battery to make sure, this big girl hates a weak battery.

What you can do, is jump start it with a known good battery (or car) and see what happens. That will tell you right away.

Loose battery connections are as common as one doing maintenance and not tightening it properly.

 

[bimota]

My 2011 tenere has been frequenting a no crank start. Happened once a week, now almost everyday. I use the kill switch to kill of the engine(not sure if this is bad). I start by turning key to ON position, kill switch disengage and then press start switch. First few times when pressing the start switch there'll be no crank, only the yellow light which comes on when pressing the starter switch. After a few times of pressing the button the bike starts. 1 time start. Sometimes cranks weakly but eventually starts. Today didn't crank weakly. Started after three to four times of pressing the starter switch with no crank. Is there something I should be worried about? I usually wait for a few seconds after disengaging kill switch to turn over the engine.

have a look at this this may help no sure

Starter Relay problem

Hi, my starter relay has started clicking and then after 1-2 seconds the starter motor works and the bike starts. Has anyone had this and was buying a new relay solve the problem? also is it better to buy a genuine one at £68 or an ebay one at £25?

www.yamahasupertenere.com

rob

 

[Dojima]

Thanks for tip and advice. Duly noted on them. Will check for loose connections and clean them as said. Thank you all for the help

 

[Boris]

As Rob suggested, check the starter relay connections. Easy check, easy fix if loose.

 

[Dojima]

As Rob suggested, check the starter relay connections. Easy check, easy fix if

 

[Dojima]

I removed the battery connections and sprayed it with contact cleaner and tightened them back. The starter relay bolts were tight. I did not remove them as I didn't know how to remove them to inspect it. I'm still having the issues with the bike. This videos shows my dilemma. I rode the bike for about 20-30 mins and I shut it off and tried to start it it was giving the same problem. Would you guys be able to help me out. I'm not sure if the battery needs replacement or I have to remove the starter relay and clean. If possible please guide me on how to remove the relay. Thank you so much

 

[Dojima]

I removed the battery connections and sprayed it with contact cleaner and tightened them back. The starter relay bolts were tight. I did not remove them as I didn't know how to remove them to inspect it. I'm still having the issues with the bike. This videos shows my dilemma. I rode the bike for about 20-30 mins and I shut it off and tried to start it it was giving the same problem. Would you guys be able to help me out. I'm not sure if the battery needs replacement or I have to remove the starter relay and clean. If possible please guide me on how to remove the relay. Thank you so much

The battery sometimes shows 12.5v to 12.6v before clicking the starter button. And idle it shows about 14.2-14.3v. In the video the fan was running for a few mins prior to recording. Maybe that's why it's showing the low voltage not so sure tho.

 

[SeaBass]

I removed the battery connections and sprayed it with contact cleaner and tightened them back. The starter relay bolts were tight. I did not remove them as I didn't know how to remove them to inspect it. I'm still having the issues with the bike. This videos shows my dilemma. I rode the bike for about 20-30 mins and I shut it off and tried to start it it was giving the same problem. Would you guys be able to help me out. I'm not sure if the battery needs replacement or I have to remove the starter relay and clean. If possible please guide me on how to remove the relay. Thank you so much

IMHO, it sounds like the starter solenoid is bad, you can hear the relay closing, but the solenoid might be stuck. It sounds a lot like when that happens on cars.
The solenoid is part of the relay.

 

[Dojima]

Ohh thank you. So does replacing it help? I've seen relays go for less than $20. Will replacing them fix it?

IMHO, it sounds like the starter solenoid is bad, you can hear the relay closing, but the solenoid might be stuck. It sounds a lot like when that happens on cars.
The solenoid is part of the relay.

 

[SeaBass]

Ohh thank you. So does replacing it help? I've seen relays go for less than $20. Will replacing them fix it?

It might. if not, you at least know what is not and you can continue down the path to find the problem and you know you got a brand new starter relay solenoid.

I was having a similar sporadic starting problems and was the solenoid.

 

[Dojima]

It might. if not, you at least know what is not and you can continue down the path to find the problem and you know you got a brand new starter relay solenoid.

I was having a similar sporadic starting problems and was the solenoid.

Thank you kindly for your humble opinion. Will look into removing the relay for a start. Don't mind can I check the process to remove it:
Remove the 2 8-10mm bolts. Then slide the relay out of the connector looking thing right? Does this remove it?

 

[bimota]

Starter Relay problem

Hi, my starter relay has started clicking and then after 1-2 seconds the starter motor works and the bike starts. Has anyone had this and was buying a new relay solve the problem? also is it better to buy a genuine one at £68 or an ebay one at £25?

www.yamahasupertenere.com

issue i had with relay that looked new and the bolts were tight inside the connections to the realy and the plug on the realay were terrible had to pull plug ooff clean the connection male and female they were green with corrosion

 

[Don in Lodi]

Need to get yourself a test light. You can find where the power is failing to reach. Start signal is reaching the solenoid, the solenoid is kicking, I don't think 12 volts is reaching the starter motor, but it could be reaching the starter and it's just not turning. You checked the battery connections for being tight, you need to pull each connection from the battery to the starter to check for corrosion. The negative connection needs to be checked at both ends as well, but everything is staying lit up, don't think that's it. Get that test light, a simple diagnostic tool that needs to be in every tool kit..

 

[Dojima]

It might. if not, you at least know what is not and you can continue down the path to find the problem and you know you got a brand new starter relay solenoid.

I was having a similar sporadic starting problems and was the solenoid.

Sry to pester you. Can I check which relay assembly you went for? Oem ones or an aftermarket one. Mine is a 2011 s10 and theres 2 part no's not sure which is the correct one. One is 4yr-81940-00-00 and the other is 4yr-81940-00-02. aftermarket relays reliable?

 

[SeaBass]

Sry to pester you. Can I check which relay assembly you went for? Oem ones or an aftermarket one. Mine is a 2011 s10 and theres 2 part no's not sure which is the correct one. One is 4yr-81940-00-00 and the other is 4yr-81940-00-02. aftermarket relays reliable?

I went for OEM one for the 2013 S10. 4YR-81940-02-00