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RonH

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Sounds like a pretty involved process. I got my notice today for my 2012 that I totalled 2yrs ago. I would be pretty worried of botched work on a job that takes 3 to 6hrs. Good luck. I would have to think a while before taking mine in if I still owned it.
 

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I hate dealers too. Vickery Motorsports has always done good for me over the years.
I would have gone to Vickery but i live in Bailey. Gonna do Gforce. They have 3 yamaha "gold mechanics"......ummm hmmm.

I have an appointment but they have to get a part first....so we will see. Per Yamaha USA my other recalls have been done.

I have a question though, and I apologize for not doing more research as i'm super busy right now...

When they remove the tank to replace this wiring harness, is there any extra work to replace the air filter? Spark plugs? Other things to do? (valves were checked 10,000 miles ago and I have a graves MCT)
 

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The airbox comes off as well to get to the throttle bodies. The only extra work would be 4 or 5 screws to open it up and change the filter.

Had mine out for a short ride today and it works fine, no issues. Will try to get out for a longer ride hopefully this weekend to confirm all is well.

As mentioned I have the complete recall instructions. If you want a copy private message me your email and I will send you a copy.
 

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I think I'm going to check, clean and lube all those connections and take a pass on the recall for now. My S10 runs great and I'm not having any problems so I'm not going to fix what ain't broke. This problem isn't very common and hasn't effected very many bikes. I can always get it done down the road or let the next owner take care of it.
 

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I think I'm going to check, clean and lube all those connections and take a pass on the recall for now. My S10 runs great and I'm not having any problems so I'm not going to fix what ain't broke. This problem isn't very common and hasn't effected very many bikes. I can always get it done down the road or let the next owner take care of it.
I just may chose your route as well. After speaking by phone in length this morning with the senior tech/service manager at the Yamy shop we both basically concurred that if the bike in the past and presently has not presented any of the symptoms the recall can be put off until after the Winter when the Spring rolls on in.
 

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I got my bike used with about 20k miles on it. Had the issue several times initially. After I did the first service, I cleaned all the electrical connections and ensured they were all properly plugged in. In the 20k miles since then, I have had zero idling/revving issues. That being said, I know the issue exists on the bike and will be getting the recall done whenever I get contacted.
 

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Service guy found a coil cap that was cracked at bolt down and had silicone sealer on it.
Told them I would address when I do valves in 3000 miles.
 

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As mentioned before, I never had any issue with stalling or the bike not returning to idle like some have. I was able to get out for a ride today and was happy to find the bike worked normally.

I mentioned on the Adventure rider forum that the only thing I didn't like about the harness Yamaha supplies is that there are 2 wire splices on the replacement harness. These are not made by the mechanic, but rather supplied from Yamaha like this.
If you read the instructions the mechanic is instructed where to locate this to prevent water intrusion.

Looks bad in my opinion and the only real gripe I have with the recall. I will have everything apart this winter to inspect what was done under the airbox. I suspect everything is fine, but like others I hate someone else touching my stuff.

Here is a pic of the splices. I will see if there is abetter way of protecting it from water over the winter. Probably get some heat shrink and seal it up really well.

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Looks like a lot could go wrong with this recall. Given that most bikes haven't had any problems, if the work isn't carried out perfectly it could lead to more problems rather than less. Hopefully Yamaha isn't going to give me a lot of hassles about the sidecar on the bike, I've got that lower right cover off to clear an upper front sidecar mount, no problems in 31k miles, but those spliced wires make me nervous.
 

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The mechanic is having problems with my bike it won't fire up now and is throwing fault codes with that new cabling.
 
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ballisticexchris

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Can you post a link, picture or part number to the cable. On the headlight recall I bought the new cable for around $25 and put it on myself, much less hassle than taking it to a dealer and blowing a day with them. If this cable is cheap I would rather buy it than mess around with the dealer.
Why not go to the dealer and have them give you the part to install? Recalls are are no cost to the customer. Parts and labor are included. OTOH, what’s the problem being without the bike for just one day?
 
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Looks bad in my opinion and the only real gripe I have with the recall. I will have everything apart this winter to inspect what was done under the airbox. I suspect everything is fine, but like others I hate someone else touching my stuff.

Here is a pic of the splices. I will see if there is abetter way of protecting it from water over the winter. Probably get some heat shrink and seal it up really well.

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Why would you “hate” letting a certified Yamaha technician do the recall repair? I’m seeing more and more guys on these forums afraid to let someone work on their bikes.

Dealers don’t stay in business very long doing inferior service and repair.

BTW, that is a perfectly acceptable sealed splice. If it’s not acceptable I blame the customer for not checking the repair at time of pickup. Before any recall repair is done you need to tell them how you want it done. I personally would have told them to use a thick coat of rosin core solder BEFORE doing the repair.
 
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Why not go to the dealer and have them give you the part to install? Recalls are are no cost to the customer. Parts and labor are included. OTOH, what’s the problem being without the bike for just one day?

It would be hard to find a dealer that would want the liability of something going wrong with a recall by saying they did something they didn't do.

The problem is bigger than being without the bike for a day. The dealer is 120 miles away, they will want to keep it for a week which means two 240 mile round trips and I don't trust their work. I think the odds of having trouble after they do the work is greater than just leaving it alone.

Even if I have to pay $200 for the recall kit, I'm better off.
 

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Stopped by my local dealer today and had them order the recall parts. Fortunately the dealer has a [nice] used '13 on the floor so it will be the guinea-pig install at the dealer. Told him I didn't want to be first...he agreed.

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Why would you “hate” letting a certified Yamaha technician do the recall repair? I’m seeing more and more guys on these forums afraid to let someone work on their bikes.

Dealers don’t stay in business very long doing inferior service and repair.

BTW, that is a perfectly acceptable sealed splice. If it’s not acceptable I blame the customer for not checking the repair at time of pickup. Before any recall repair is done you need to tell them how you want it done. I personally would have told them to use a thick coat of rosin core solder BEFORE doing the repair.
ballisticexchris, it sounds like you're lucky and you have a good dealer with good techs that you trust and that is great. Your profile says you're in Fullerton CA. and that tells me you probably have 50 or more shops close by to pick from.

Out here in the burgs and villes we aren't that lucky. Most shops do good to have one certified tech that knows his ass from a hole in the ground. It's a roll of the dice whether you get a good tech to do the recall or they pull the part time kid away from an oil change and let him do the job.

Don't even think about telling them what to do and how you want the job done or else they will tell you to load it up and hit the road. Out here away from Southern CA that can mean a 100-200 mile drive to another dealer that may be worse than the one you just left.
 

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If I was afraid to have a certified mech do the work I wouldn't have been the first one on here to have it done.
It is a fact that I prefer to do as much of my required maintenance myself. I see no need to take a bike to a dealer for work I can do at home.

I am sure that is a fine splice, but if you read the instructions they indicate where they want the tech to locate the splice to prevent water entering the sub harness. That location is going to see a ton of water every time I wash the bike. If you look at the pic below you will see another piece of shrink tubing back to cover the gap between the splice and the black sheathing of the harness would be a lot cleaner and much better at keeping water out.

The splice is done at the factory, not by the mechainic. So there is no telling the mechanic to use resin core solder on the splice. We spoke when I picked it up, he showed me the splice because I had removed the bodywork before I dropped the bike off. I have no issue with his work. Nice and tidy wiring exactly as it was when I dropped it off.


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ballisticexchris, it sounds like you're lucky and you have a good dealer with good techs that you trust and that is great. Your profile says you're in Fullerton CA. and that tells me you probably have 50 or more shops close by to pick from.

Out here in the burgs and villes we aren't that lucky. Most shops do good to have one certified tech that knows his ass from a hole in the ground. It's a roll of the dice whether you get a good tech to do the recall or they pull the part time kid away from an oil change and let him do the job.

Don't even think about telling them what to do and how you want the job done or else they will tell you to load it up and hit the road. Out here away from Southern CA that can mean a 100-200 mile drive to another dealer that may be worse than the one you just left.
That sucks for sure. My bad for not looking at where you live. I’m very picky and the dealers I work with know it before they ever put a wrench on my bike. But you are 100% correct in the fact I have a bunch places to choose from to work on my bikes. I’m at the point in my life I just want to ride and do just the easy maintenance stuff myself.
 

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Same problem here in rural southwest MN with 3 dealers within 100 miles. I suspect most of these dealer's techs have never even done a regular service on an S10 as most of the rural dealers sell mostly ATVs and few bikes. Doing one of these for the first tme would be an all day job for me, and if Yamaha is only paying 2 hours labor I suspect a lot of these "fixes" will not be done well.
 

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The closest shop to me is only 12 miles, and they did fine with the simple headlight harness recall. But after reading the instructions ( Thanks @jrusell ), I think I'll wait until they have done at least one other before mine. I just had all that stuff apart doing my valve check, and I had much of it apart putting in my flashtune harness years ago. There is plenty to screw up if you are trying to get it done in two hours!
 
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