ES vs Non-ES

Scrambler007

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Mostly correct, only the gross hard, standard and soft settings are available on the fly. The smaller +/- settings within each gross setting, the ones i call incremental, are only adjustable when stopped.
And the small increments don't make much of a different anyways, they probably could have just gone with SOFT, STANDARD and HARD but make the settings feel really different.
 

WJBertrand

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Maybe the route of the confusion is here:-

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'When using the preload adjusting function, there should be no weight on the vehicle'

This is taken from the owners manual for a 2019 model but it is also mentioned on page 3:38 in my now sold 2014 model Owner's Manual

Mike
Yes, this is exactly what I said. See my post #32 above.

If one really wants to pic nits, it’s interesting that this warning only appears under the cold operation section. Perhaps that means that under warmer conditions it doesn’t matter if there’s weight on the vehicle?


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Bmwdumptruck

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I‘d go newest lowest miles every time, what you’ve never had you won’t miss. By choice I went non ES for simplicity and reliability, And a £1500 saving. I have added Genuine heated grips and SH pillion handles, both imported via America so only adding about £240 ish. Everything else I’ve added I would have added to any bike. A centrestand would be handy, especially at Tyre changing time, but I’ll wait till one comes up SH.
 

fac191

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What you don't want to do is load your bike up then adjust the preload. I think that's why they state no weight on it.
 

Jlq1969

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Is that the best way to get rid of the doubt is to see "what does the rear shock absorber do when the preload is increased or reduced" and from there draw a conclusion of "what will be better for the small electric motor?" ….lift the bike?….or…just move the rear swingarm?”
 

fac191

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Is that the best way to get rid of the doubt is to see "what does the rear shock absorber do when the preload is increased or reduced" and from there draw a conclusion of "what will be better for the small electric motor?" ….lift the bike?….or…just move the rear swingarm?”
The ES used is from the FJ i believe so tried and tested. And you do it in steps so the motor gets a rest. Agreed you don't want to overwork it but im not aware of them failing. Doing it on the centre stand is best though.
 
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