ES sag setting

holligl

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I did a search but did not find a thread on setting sag. Is there any adjustment on the ES besides the 4 preload settings? Is it a matter of making the measurements on each setting to know if you need to go higher or lower given your weight and configuration? I'm probably 220 geared up, have a 13lb skid plate, a tank bag and tail bag, and normally ride 1 helmet and luggage.

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. . . . I'm probably 220 geared up, have a 13lb skid plate, a tank bag and tail bag, and normally ride 1 helmet and luggage.
I think Chris did some sag measurements, but I don't know where they'd be. With the weight(s) you're talking about . . . . that's the setting I'd go with. I'm 300 and that's the setting I use, but I stiffened up the dampening. It's counterintuitive, but it gives a smoother ride than more preload and less dampening.
 

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No way to adjust sag outside of the provided settings. Many of us have fitted a stiffer rear spring which effectively shifts all the settings up. I installed about a +20% stiffer spring and that was enough to make the settings reflect my actual loading configuration. I’ve recently lost about 30lb but this spring worked well for me when I was ~240lb before gear. You can also get smaller percentage stiffer springs too.


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It's not just about bottoming out. The bike also needs to travel upwards on the springs
When you have too much preload the bike is sitting too high on the spring and does not allow it.
 

holligl

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Total Weight (Rider gear, tools, Tank/Tail Bag) was 235lbs. My guess is I need a stiffer spring.
I don't have complaints about the performance, but maybe I don't know what is am missing.

I did it solo but think it's pretty accurate. I used the camera on voice command and a post by the handlebars to balance.

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I weigh 195 and have never bottomed out the stock ES suspension when fully loaded.
Even when my wife is riding with me, I've never bottomed out. More importantly, with the rebound/dampening adjusted correctly, the bike handles great. And we're at or above the bikes official weight limit. So, someone riding solo, even loaded to the gills, should have more than enough suspension.
 

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Total Weight (Rider gear, tools, Tank/Tail Bag) was 235lbs. My guess is I need a stiffer spring.
I don't have complaints about the performance, but maybe I don't know what is am missing.

I did it solo but think it's pretty accurate. I used the camera on voice command and a post by the handlebars to balance.

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Nice analysis. :)
 

holligl

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I would add for reference on the static sag: the tank/tail bags and tools were on the bike at 26 lbs, and the Jaxon plate is 13lbs.
 
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