Donk got a V100 Mandello!!!

[SilverBullet]

I wonder what that's all about? Are there a lot of leftover '24s sitting at dealers?

Quick Google info says Guzzi manufactures about 10K bikes per year. Sales figures are only 7-8K so that leaves unsold bikes. I was astonished how low those numbers were. Guzzi's are not even popular in Italy anymore. Very rare to see one on the road out riding there. Field is dominated by BMW, KTM and Jap bikes. I even saw probably 5 times the number of Harleys than Guzzi's. Google says only 2K per year new registrations.

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[SilverBullet]

Madhatter here is your Guzzi's namesake, Passo Stelvio.

And to keep it Tenere related, a photo of my bike.

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[Madhatter]

view is incredible . the S10 with its massive engine braking is great in that kind of riding . put it in 3rd and give it the gas and let off and it slows down , very little shifting or brake use required , but nothing like that road around here , awesome .

 

[ZigZag]

Quick Google info says Guzzi manufactures about 10K bikes per year. Sales figures are only 7-8K so that leaves unsold bikes. I was astonished how low those numbers were. Guzzi's are not even popular in Italy anymore. Very rare to see one on the road out riding there. Field is dominated by BMW, KTM and Jap bikes. I even saw probably 5 times the number of Harleys than Guzzi's. Google says only 2K per year new registrations.

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It potentially adds to the enjoyment of owning one. Exclusivity. Not many around. Where as KTMs and BMWs everywhere.

 

[ZigZag]

view is incredible . the S10 with its massive engine braking is great in that kind of riding . put it in 3rd and give it the gas and let off and it slows down , very little shifting or brake use required , but nothing like that road around here , awesome .

The power of a twin, roll on and roll off the torque wave. A very enjoyable way to ride.

So little traffic on it too. I've seen other photos and it was littered with camper vans, bicycles, motorbikes and sports cars.

 

[SilverBullet]

The power of a twin, roll on and roll off the torque wave. A very enjoyable way to ride.

So little traffic on it too. I've seen other photos and it was littered with camper vans, bicycles, motorbikes and sports cars.

This was late afternoon on a weekday. Go Saturday or Sunday and it is jammed up with mixed traffic. I checked Google maps yesterday and 1/4 of the 20-30 miles was red and 1/2 was orange. No fun in that.

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[Donk]

UPDATE;
1) I was told no V100s in Canada may, as in possibly have to do with tariffs. I guess the route is Italy-USA-Canada.

2). Stopped by dealer today to visit my Mandello. Progress of sorts. Dealer now confirms terrible lurching when shifting the bike combined with difficult shifting. They rode it with and without quick shifter. As much as said using the quick shifter could be dangerous. Piaggio is still not willing to authorize opening up the tranny to see what's going on. Shop mgr said if he cannot get authorization by the end of the week he's going to open it up anyway. I was talking to GM of Rahal motorcycle sales he told me Midwest Tech rep for Piaggio is a real pain in the butt. That at lest confirms what my dealer has said. Not hopeful for any quick resolution but at least it's going somewhere and the dealer admits the bike isn't right.

Pretty bad when"Yup your bike is broken" is a good day but I will take small victories when I get them.

 

[Donk]

Another example of a transmission issue that Piaggio says they've never heard of. How to destroy the reputation of a good motorcycle.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Can't click "like" but am glad the dealer is willing to go ahead on his own, presumably to then bill Piaggio on what is found.

Thought of the QS being part of the problem fits with some other posts. Now glad I didn't order it and dodged that bullet. Am planning on a couple weeks of riding in July and have put together a small "spares" list including a new radiator cap, tubing, and hose clamps. Plus if I have them on hand they'll never fail, right?


I know my dealer guy personally and called him this morning. He said that there is definitely no "stop sales" order and that the most recent thing they have is a software update from March.

I think your thought about impact of tariffs is most likely correct since Canada likely gets their bikes from AF1 in Texas. Google says that Canada imposed a 25% tariff on motorcycles and other goods imported from the United States, including motorcycles and related apparel, effective March 4, 2025.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

UPDATE;
1) I was told no V100s in Canada may, as in possibly have to do with tariffs. I guess the route is Italy-USA-Canada.

2). Stopped by dealer today to visit my Mandello. Progress of sorts. Dealer now confirms terrible lurching when shifting the bike combined with difficult shifting. They rode it with and without quick shifter. As much as said using the quick shifter could be dangerous. Piaggio is still not willing to authorize opening up the tranny to see what's going on. Shop mgr said if he cannot get authorization by the end of the week he's going to open it up anyway. I was talking to GM of Rahal motorcycle sales he told me Midwest Tech rep for Piaggio is a real pain in the butt. That at lest confirms what my dealer has said. Not hopeful for any quick resolution but at least it's going somewhere and the dealer admits the bike isn't right.

Pretty bad when"Yup your bike is broken" is a good day but I will take small victories when I get them.

Seems like you'll have a strong Lemon Law case if that time comes.

 

[Donk]

I do not think there should be a stop sales order. I think a few, maybe less than 1%? of the early bikes have an issue. I know there was a change made to the clutch or input shaft between the first bikes and before the '24 models and before the Stelvio. I am very disappointed with Piaggio. If someone asked me today I would say it's a great bike but don't buy one.

 

[Donk]

Checkswrecks I would not think twice about going on a trip with your Stelvio. In all probability it will be flawless.

I have documented 4 cases including mine of shifting issues worldwide. The rest is just winey baby internet nonsense. That is not to say there are not more bikes I don't know about and or other issues but generally it seems a good bike. You guys have just been kind enough to let me vent and listen to my frustrations. Time will tell what the outcome will be and in the grand scheme of things it's pretty inconsequential. It's just a bike.

 

[ZigZag]

Checkswrecks I would not think twice about going on a trip with your Stelvio. In all probability it will be flawless.

I have documented 4 cases including mine of shifting issues worldwide. The rest is just winey baby internet nonsense. That is not to say there are not more bikes I don't know about and or other issues but generally it seems a good bike. You guys have just been kind enough to let me vent and listen to my frustrations. Time will tell what the outcome will be and in the grand scheme of things it's pretty inconsequential. It's just a bike.

If Piaggio USA had approved immediate repair of your bike and had any necessary parts in stock, your bike might have been off the road for a week at most and you would be riding it again. Include an apology and a tank of fuel and it would have been a whole different experience for you.

Do the 4 cases you have found all have the quick shifter?

 

[HeliMark]

Checkswrecks I would not think twice about going on a trip with your Stelvio. In all probability it will be flawless.

I have documented 4 cases including mine of shifting issues worldwide. The rest is just winey baby internet nonsense. That is not to say there are not more bikes I don't know about and or other issues but generally it seems a good bike. You guys have just been kind enough to let me vent and listen to my frustrations. Time will tell what the outcome will be and in the grand scheme of things it's pretty inconsequential. It's just a bike.

I have been watching this thread, as a Stelvio is high on my list of bikes that I am considering to purchase sometime this year. My problem is that Piaggio is flatly refusing to at least explore the possibility that your issue is something that in fact happened. Saying it has never happened, and saying in essence that it could not happen is short sighted. One would think that the Piaggio would like to know, although it could be just the regional manager that is the issue.

 

[Donk]

I do not know if other bikes have the quick shifter. It seems with all the bikes the problem is in the tranny.

 

[Checkswrecks]

I have been watching this thread, as a Stelvio is high on my list of bikes that I am considering to purchase sometime this year. My problem is that Piaggio is flatly refusing to at least explore the possibility that your issue is something that in fact happened. Saying it has never happened, and saying in essence that it could not happen is short sighted. One would think that the Piaggio would like to know, although it could be just the regional manager that is the issue.

I have a feeling it’s corporate and not the manager.
The Mandello was tempting when it came out but being a new engine and trans I waited to see if there’d be problems and let them work out any teething issues that would come with the first bikes. They did make changes going from 23-24 so am glad I did. I really enjoy mine but will be buying the extended warranty.

Watching ADV and GuzziTalk, it just seems to me that most people love the Stelvio and Mandello, with some racking up fast miles and there are some early Mandellos already with 50k. Meanwhile a few have problems like Donk and the factory just is not customer oriented enough.

Meanwhile some eye candy of a custom Mandello cafe racer in Italy.

 

[Sierra1]

That's quite the exhaust routing.

 

[Donk]

Hate to say it of a V100 but that thing is really ugly!

I'm not sure there is much value in an extended warranty. I can't get them to fix mine under the original factory warranty.

 

[Madhatter]

maybe you will get news this week , answers to the problem .

 

[Donk]

I did get news!
Piaggio approved the warranty work and told the shop mgr "maybe there have been 1 or 2 other bikes with a similar problem." It's progress and I'm happy about it.
To put it in perspective Honda was in no hurry to admit there was an issue with the drive gear bolt on '18-'21? GoldWings. There were owners that had to either replace engines or had to fix the gear bolt on their own dime for a while before Honda stepped up. Motorcycle Companies are run by corporate bean counters and that's the way things work these days.

On another note as of today there have been no 2025 V100s delivered to the US. May be a lot of leftover '24s in the warehouse, may have something to do with tariffs I have no idea. Doubt its anything significant.