Discontinuation of the S10?

[AusTexS10]

Since you ask, we spend a lot time every day pulling the weeds. If they have posted an intro and added their location, they are real

You can maybe blame me for part of it. Hardly a week goes by that I don't suggest the forum to folks posting questions in one or the other Facebook Super T groups about problems or needing good ideas and tech information.

 

[WJBertrand]

Do we actually know if Yamaha have actually made any new XT1200s since 2020? For any market? Strikes me they probably made a few thousand last models for all markets, distributed them around the world, and once all sold thats it. Here in the uk the dealer I bought mine from told me they bought the entire stock from Yamaha Uk, 80 odd bikes, all of which had to be registered by the end of 20. They then outed them at cracking prices, hence they‘re all gone.
If in other country’s there was no need to register for emmisions regs etc, then there was no need to clear them out, or sell as bargains, hence there’s still some left. But from the sound of it, even these are getting scarse. No new colour schemes adds to this theory. I reckon if you’re thinking of upgrading to a new one, I’d crack on and get it done, cos I reckon there won’t be too many new ones left anywhere. He who hesitates………

They are at least manufacturing or finishing new tanks, farings and graphics for non-Euro 5 geographies as there is a 2023 model presented on Yamaha’s USA site. No technical updates that I could tell and their frame tags say 2023.

Not sure about all the legalities of potentially re-tagging older manufactured bikes. Must be some rules around that. Back in the 80s and 90s when the Japanese manufacturers over built, they were happy to sell new leftover bikes, often several model years old, that were tagged according the year they were manufactured.

It seems to me it would be a disadvantage to tag older bikes as new in cases where there were updated regulations/requirements on newer designated models.


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[Sierra1]

. . . . Back in the 80s and 90s when the Japanese manufacturers over built, they were happy to sell new leftover bikes, often several model years old, that were tagged according the year they were manufactured. . . .

Yup. They were referred to as "new non-current". You could get some super sweet deals. A friend of mine was able to pick up an '82 550 SECA for $1.300 with no miles on it in '85. That was half-price. He had no issues with registration, and it was titled as an '82. And this was even in CA. But the UK has a weird way of registering, and I don't think it possible/legal to do so.

I could see Yamaha making a bunch 2020s and selling them as 2023s, but the V.I.N. year digit wouldn't match. Unless they didn't stamp the V.I.N. until the proper year.

 

[Bmwdumptruck]

They are at least manufacturing or finishing new tanks, farings and graphics for non-Euro 5 geographies as there is a 2023 model presented on Yamaha’s USA site. No technical updates that I could tell and their frame tags say 2023.

Not sure about all the legalities of potentially re-tagging older manufactured bikes. Must be some rules around that. Back in the 80s and 90s when the Japanese manufacturers over built, they were happy to sell new leftover bikes, often several model years old, that were tagged according the year they were manufactured.

It seems to me it would be a disadvantage to tag older bikes as new in cases where there were updated regulations/requirements on newer designated models.


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Yes I noticed recently that the latest models now come with exciting Biege graphics in place of the yellow ones of the last couple of years. Is this the only change? So either my theory is bollocks or they’re holding back adding the graphics until they’re shipped out. Don’t know about the frame tags, whether they can also be added before shipping. I doubt the vin no on the headstock could be, does that have production date in it?
If they are still making new ones it really does make you wonder why they wouldn’t do the necessary upgrades to meet the euro emmisions, but then the competition has moved on so much it must be hard to sell them for decent profit.
As I’ve said before, it’s a huge shame theynever developed the running gear into other models. A supermoto R version with alloy wheels and sports tyres would be so easy and cheap to develop, as would a TDM variant with FJR panniers. A naked Bulldog model would also be pretty easy once you’ve done a 17”alloy wheel conversion. Kinda glad they didn’t though as I’d want one of each…….

 

[WJBertrand]

Agreed, it’s a good versatile power plant. Look at all variations Honda are making around the Africa Twin engine.


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[tntmo]

Agreed, it’s a good versatile power plant. Look at all variations Honda are making around the Africa Twin engine.


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Honda is doing that with a lot of their engines, the 300 is in a sport bike, standard style, cruiser and a dual sport.

Yamaha does the same thing, MT07, YZF-R7, and Tenere 700 share the same basic engine.

Chain drive engines make this a lot easier. The Tenere engine is kind of bulky as well, doesn't really lend itself to a lot of different bikes.