Disable TCS?

[Northof60]

Hi gang!
Doing alot of 'soft' riding lately in sand, loose gravel, etc. Is there a way to disable the TCS feature on the ST?
I have a 2013 with 20K mileage. Is it something we can all do at home, with basic tools?
Appreciate your feedback.
Cheers!

 

[thughes317]

As per owner's manual:

Push the traction control system switch on the multi-function meter for less than one second to change between "TCS" modes "1" and "2".
Push the switch for at least two seconds to select "TCS" mode "Off" and turn the traction control system off.
Push the switch again to re-turn to the previously selected mode "1" or "2".

No tools required!!!

Yamaha SUPER TENERE XT1200Z Owner's Manual (Page 37 of 108) | ManualsLib

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[gv550]

But....... every time you turn the ignition off, the bike will default back to TCS on.

 

[Northof60]

Thanks everyone. Stay safe!

 

[Saint rob]

It's just a thought but would disabling ABS also disable TCS?
If it does there are various ways of doing that in a way that makes it switchable and easy to do when required.

 

[patrickg450]

N o TCS is separate from ABS

 

[Saint rob]

N o TCS is separate from ABS

I understand that TCS is seperate from ABS but I presume they use the same sensors. AFAIK all TCS does is detect a speed differential between front & rear wheels and I was just thinking logically that by disabling ABS would it not therefore stop TCS working? I think there are a couple of ways of disabling ABS, maybe one of them affects the signals from the sensors and the other just turns the ABS pump off leaving the sensors to do their thing which provides the signal for TCS.

 

[Berg_Donk]

On my Gen 1, disabling the ABS also disables the linked brakes, but the TCS stays.

For short stops, I leave the ignition on and use the kill switch so I don't have to reset the TCS to off.

 

[MattR]

If you are having your ecu flashed in the future you can have it changed so that it won’t revert to TCS on when you switch it off and on again


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[Don in Lodi]

So far as I know that TCS revert is hardwired in, can't be programmed out. Anybody try pulling both the speed sensors and see what happens? Both ABS and TCS would then have no input, no speedo either, but getting rid of the nannies is more important, right?

 

[jeckyll]

I take the front sensor off. Have a little zap strap so i can tuck it out of the way.

It's persistent, but of course also disables abs...

YMMV

 

[MattR]

So far as I know that TCS revert is hardwired in, can't be programmed out. Anybody try pulling both the speed sensors and see what happens? Both ABS and TCS would then have no input, no speedo either, but getting rid of the nannies is more important, right?

Is that in all models?


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[MattR]

I’ve just chatted to Chris at CJS. He’s sure you can switch off the revert in the ecu. Same as you can with R1 and ZX14R


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[Don in Lodi]

It would be cool if somebody gets it done so we can confirm.

 

[DamonS]

This may be a dumb question, related to the original topic.

I just spent 2 weeks in the woods with the bike, riding mostly logging roads and very, very rugged single track and noticed that while climbing anything, the bike would start to misfire (felt like bad gas). It seemed ok on flat ground and even on dirt roads with a heavy wrist. It wasn't what i expected of the bike and spent almost a full day of my trip tearing down the top of the bike, looking over the plugs and trying to get to the bottom of it.

I noticed that disabling the TCS completely eliminated the issue and I just did it the rest of the trip.. for those in the know, is this how the TCS behaves on incline wheel slip or should I be testing other components (angle sensors, etc)?

 

[MileageMonster]

These two short movies should give quite a conclusive answer…

 

[thughes317]

is this how the TCS behaves on incline wheel slip?

Yes

 

[DamonS]

Yes

thanks for confirming that. now i don't have to rip deeper into it. very much appreciated.

 

[WJBertrand]

This may be a dumb question, related to the original topic.

I just spent 2 weeks in the woods with the bike, riding mostly logging roads and very, very rugged single track and noticed that while climbing anything, the bike would start to misfire (felt like bad gas). It seemed ok on flat ground and even on dirt roads with a heavy wrist. It wasn't what i expected of the bike and spent almost a full day of my trip tearing down the top of the bike, looking over the plugs and trying to get to the bottom of it.

I noticed that disabling the TCS completely eliminated the issue and I just did it the rest of the trip.. for those in the know, is this how the TCS behaves on incline wheel slip or should I be testing other components (angle sensors, etc)?

You should have seen the TCS light flashing when it intervenes.

 

[DamonS]

You should have seen the TCS light flashing when it intervenes.

not one time. on dirt roads with heavy wrist, it flashes.. coming up say a rocky hill where the wheel can hop momentarily but not heavy throttle, it feels like the engine is missing on a cylinder, nothing on the dash to indicate TCS was taking over.. once TCS was disabled, the issue went away (but not after 4 hours of trailside tear-down to find the electrical wire that was shorting, but really wasn't).

don't want to derail the thread, just thought it was something interesting that reminded me of the problem I had while the details were fresh in the mind