'De-catting' the headers.

Philb714

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I was bored (I get bored easily)..... So I thought I would 'de-cat' the standard headers that I had hanging about in the garage after fitting some Arrow headers.

Keyhole surgery was required I thought, so pass the forceps Doc....

I started off using (several) metal cutting discs on my Dremel (Using a hacksaw to just cut through the center welded part to make it easier) and make a 'guesstimate' of where the Cat would be located..
There are two metal skins... the outer skin which I cut through with the Dremel.
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And a second skin which I think is stainless steel which was really hard to drill through using a standard HSS drill bit, maybe a cobalt drill bit would of been better... it probably would of, but I didn't have one.:(
I drilled the depth of the drill to get right through the cat honeycomb underneath... you'll see why later... (I'd probably recommend wearing a mask as it gets a little dusty & gloves if you're worried about your skin and all that Health & Safety bollocks).
Be careful if you do this job as the metal swarf from the drilling and the honeycomb material that the Cat is made of is very sharp.
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Once I'd chain drilled the second skin, carefully dragging the drill sideways to correct my shite 'close linked' holes :rolleyes:, I then levered the plate up with a screwdriver revealing the honeycomb. I used the drill again to get right down through the Cat to the other side, then joined all the drill holes together. Note: I had to 'lean' on the drill as it was hard work drilling through the Cat.
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It was then a case of digging the center out with flat bladed screwdriver & a metal cold chisel with the use of a hammer. If you are lucky, you can break through the ends of the Cat honeycomb quite easily to clear a path at both ends. The headers are very 'robust' so you can use a fair bit of force to dig the Cat out.
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I used a magnet to fish out all the smaller bits & pieces.
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Bit more digging required...
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Once I had cleared the center out, I used a chisel just to part the inner skin from the honeycomb then used a small crowbar to tease out the side sections of the Cat.
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Getting the loose Cat section out was a faff, but with a bit of brute force and ignorance it came out... If I'd made the hole bigger it might of made it easier. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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It was just a case of cleaning out the remaining bits of honeycomb then (Crowbar was the best tool to use).
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Philb714

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I deliberately left all the sharp 'sticky-out' drill edges so I could rest the plate on it to make it easier to weld up.
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See?
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It was welded by my mate Paul... I don't think that is going to leak. :):):)
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And they all lived happily ever after....


Note.
I've seen the video where the headers were cut in half, but then you have the issue of the pipes not being welded together in exactly the right place and not being aligned correctly. Keyhole surgery is the way ahead! ;)
 
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yoyo

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Cracking idea, I wasn't keen on the idea of splitting the pipe in half either, you only need to be a couple of mil off when you weld it back up and it'll never fit back properly.

Thanks for the right up. Time to get the headers up for sale!

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ballisticexchris

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You do know that was totally unnecessary. You could have sold that cat at the scrapyard and purchased a brand new full Arrow exhaust system and had money left over.

The precious metals in catalytic converters are worth thousands. $6,000 an ounce, as in the case of rhodium. Right here in California there is a high demand for them. A few quick swipes with a Sawzall and you can make big money removing them from cars. It's perfectly acceptable to cut them out of random cars parked in the city. At the most it's only a small fine and ticket if you get caught.

Our jails are overcrowded which makes stealing catalytic converters a big money maker with zero chance of being arrested. Unless of course you are the honest law abiding citizen who catches the criminal. Then you are thrown in prison to rot.
 
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ballisticexchris

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Do I need to declare this on my insurance too as added value?
Actually here you do. If you have a Subaru or Toyota Prius the chance of you coming out to your car with a missing cat is good. Rohdium and Palladium prices are through the roof right now due to the increasing production of catalytic converters.
 

tallpaul

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You do know that was totally unnecessary. You could have sold that cat at the scrapyard and purchased a brand new full Arrow exhaust system and had money left over.

The precious metals in catalytic converters are worth thousands. $6,000 an ounce, as in the case of rhodium. Right here in California there is a high demand for them. A few quick swipes with a Sawzall and you can make big money removing them from cars. It's perfectly acceptable to cut them out of random cars parked in the city. At the most it's only a small fine and ticket if you get caught.

Our jails are overcrowded which makes stealing catalytic converters a big money maker with zero chance of being arrested. Unless of course you are the honest law abiding citizen who catches the criminal. Then you are thrown in prison to rot.
It's a big issue over here, catalytic converter theft. They seem to target the Japanese brands more, either because of ease of accessibility or amounts of precious metals, but we have had two cars targeted at my workplace. The cost of replacing the cat with a genuine was enough to get one of them written off. Both cars were 2006 models.
 

Philb714

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The first reason I did this mod was to experiment & find out if I could take the cat out through a keyhole...
The second reason was that I have had the ECU remapped by WIZ Performance for the Arrow headers & aftermarket can and the bike was ‘lurching/hunting’ at low speed with slight throttle applied & the tickover wasn’t steady. (Arrow header & MIVV can fitted). With the OEM header (pre cat removal) & MIVV can fitted it didn’t have the same issues... so I thought I’d ‘De Cat’ the OEM headers to see if it made a difference...
And it has... no more issues at low speed... is it the balancer pipe making the difference I don’t know, but the bike is definitely running better.
 

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You do know that was totally unnecessary. You could have sold that cat at the scrapyard and purchased a brand new full Arrow exhaust system and had money left over.

The precious metals in catalytic converters are worth thousands. $6,000 an ounce, as in the case of rhodium. Right here in California there is a high demand for them. A few quick swipes with a Sawzall and you can make big money removing them from cars. It's perfectly acceptable to cut them out of random cars parked in the city. At the most it's only a small fine and ticket if you get caught.

Our jails are overcrowded which makes stealing catalytic converters a big money maker with zero chance of being arrested. Unless of course you are the honest law abiding citizen who catches the criminal. Then you are thrown in prison to rot.
I was going to guess he had about 300$ of precious metal wtfdik they are being stolen off everything around my area.
 

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Tengo un ES 2018. Ahora tiene 14000kms. Mi experiencia con él es de buena a muy buena en términos de rango de bajas revoluciones. Sea paciente y deje que la bicicleta vaya más suave a lo largo de los kilómetros. Debe pensar que el sensor de O2 perderá precisión y podría dar una respuesta menos nítida. Lo mismo para el gato y el tubo de escape. Necesitan ser quemados a través de los kms.
 
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Actually here you do. If you have a Subaru or Toyota Prius the chance of you coming out to your car with a missing cat is good. Rohdium and Palladium prices are through the roof right now due to the increasing production of catalytic converters.
Its a big problem in London
 

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Tengo un ES 2018. Ahora tiene 14000kms. Mi experiencia con él es de buena a muy buena en términos de rango de bajas revoluciones. Sea paciente y deje que la bicicleta vaya más suave a lo largo de los kilómetros. Debe pensar que el sensor de O2 perderá precisión y podría dar una respuesta menos nítida. Lo mismo para el gato y el tubo de escape. Necesitan ser quemados a través de los kms.
Well we are notoriously impatient and rather than wait for the O2 sensors to become "sluggish" thus reducing throttle abruptness, a flash will just immediately turn them off, or ignore them.
 
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